I fear we have a marketeer looking for some bussiness with a group of people in pain..if I am wrong, Paula can substantiate her claim as well as I can dispute it, agree with that part? I can also prove it is impossible for PT to help soften adhesion tissue....so therefor I CAN substantiate my claim that PT will not help ARD!
Bev
>----- Original Message -----
From: Joyce <Joyce@bellsouth.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: How do I prevent them from coming back?
> I also would love more info on PT for adhesions... I would be willing
> to try it as I've had wonderful success with PT for tendonitis, but
> adhesions is a far cry from tennis elbow. My argument would be with the
> 'heat' treatment. Over the summer I tried sitting in a Hot Tub thinking
> the heat would help my pain. Boy, was I wrong! Apparently, the heat
> caused more swelling! I ended up in so much pain I had to go to bed in
> the middle of the day which was a bummer being that I was on vacation. I
> took some Anti-Inflammatory NSAID Medication and just layed there until
> the pain eased. I was absolutely miserable! Never again will I try heat
> to relieve the pain. And I've also tried Yoga stretches and Pilates.
> They both seem to aggravate the condition. It feels like the pulling
> reinjures the tissue... I would love to find an exercise or stretch
> that helps instead of hurts.... if PT can help, then I'm all for it...
> but I have to say, I'm skeptical. Would love more specific info.....
>
> Joyce
>
> At Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Bernie and Beverly Doucette wrote:
> >
> >Please send substantiating information as to how PT can soften adhesion
> >tissue?
> >
> >Adhesions are located deep within the abdomen and many surround the
> >intestines, as time goes by the adhesion tissue toughens thus constricts
the
> >intestine or pulls other attached organs out of position more and more,
how
> >can PT help in that process?
> >How does a therepist massage adhesion on the bowel? What about in the
deep
> >abdomen? There ia the large thick rectus muscle as well as a layer of
fatty
> >tissue between the surface of the abdomen and the adhesions, how are the
> >adhesions massaged?
> >
> >A TENS unit is a nerve stimulator, how would that be of benefit on
adhesion
> >tissue as there is no nerves in adhesion tissue? And where would a TENS
be
> >placed on a person for abdominal adhesions, as without a laporoscopic
> >surgery, it is unknown where the adhesion are and what they are attached
to?
> >
> >Excersise that cause pulling of the organs that adhesions are connected
to
> >will increase inflamation thus pain, if a person cannot bend or sit for
long
> >due to the intestines not being able to move up and to the back of that
> >person becasue they are attched to the peritoneum ( inner abdominal
wall )
> >wouldn't excersise create even more pain? At times even movement while
> >riding in a car can cause pain simply from the motion of the moving
vehicle.
> >
> >Are there brochures or information on these treatmenst? What has the
history
> >been as far as success? How is this success tracked if there is
statistics
> >on PT & Adhesion disease?
> >
> >Have you seen adhesion of the bowel or pelvis?
> >
> >It is imarative that comments of this nature be substantiated for those
who
> >are desperatly looking for medical intervetion and it is also important
for
> >them not to pay money they do not have in treatments that will be
> >ineffective for this disease...it is my opinion that PT will not help
> >adhesion sufferers other then to empty the pocket books. BUT...show me
> >proof of all that was discribed here and I will be very willing to
research
> >it.
> >
> >Your new here, and we are happy that it worked for you, Paula, and who
did
> >your surgery? How many surgeries have you had and how may years have you
> >suffered with adhesions? Did you have endo as well my dear? Thank-you
for
> >sharing this and we look forward to hearing more on this and answers to
> >these questions as well.
> >
> >Sincerely yours
> >Beverly
>> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: ZIMLICKI,PAULA M <MKT-PMZ@womans.com>
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
<adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:10 PM
> >Subject: Re: How do I prevent them from coming back?
> >
> >> I suffer from adhesions due to so much abdominal surgery. I had one
> >surgery
> >> for the adhesions, which I always found ironic since surgery is what
> >caused
> >> them in the first place! The second time the adhesions began giving me
> >lots
> >> of pain I tried physical therapy, and it worked. The pain was so severe
> >that
> >> it woke me up whenever I turned over at night. It's important to get a
> >> physical therapist who has received specific training in abdominal
> >> adhesions. The American Physical Therapy Association, which has a
website,
> >> can give you information as to whether a PT in your area is available.
I
> >> encourage all of you to try this. Through the use of ultrasound, scar
> >> massage, heat, TENS unit, and exercises tailored toward the adhesions,
I
> >was
> >> spared another abdominal surgery. The PT treatment does not get rid of
the
> >> adhesions but can soften them enough so that they don't cause the pain.
It
> >> spared me another abdominal surgery! I would be glad to answer any
> >> questions.
> >>
> >> Paula M. Zimlicki
> >>
> >> mkt-pmz@womans.com
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: acinom@primenet.com [SMTP:acinom@primenet.com]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 9:09 PM
> >> > To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> >> > Subject: How do I prevent them from coming back?
> >> >
> >> > Hi everyone! I just stumbled upon this site tonight, I have yet to
join
> >> > the forum, but I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have endo,
I
> >> > had 2 laps in 99, and I have another one scheduled for October 30th.
> >> > Each of the last times they found more problems with the surgical
> >> > adhesions from an appendectomy back in 88 with minimal endo. The
amount
> >> > that came back in just 4 months was amazing. Well, the pain is back,
> >> > and again I suspect it to be adhesions rather than endo, but who is
to
> >> > know for sure which is causing the pain since I have both problems? I
> >> > dont want to take Lupron or any other hormonal treatment other than
> >> > bcp's particularly because I fear the big problem is the adhsions so
why
> >> > mess with endo drugs if that isnt the issue? Anyway, my questions for
> >> > you are these:
> >> > Have any of you tried Acupuncture? Either to relieve pain or to keep
> >> > adhesions from reforming (is this possible?)
> >> > Is there anything I can do after this surgery to retard the growth of
> >> > this stuff?
> >> > Please email me at acinom@primenet.com if you can be of any
assistance.
> >> > I appreciate it more than you can imagine!
> >> > I hope this finds you all pain free and blessed with love and
laughter
> >> > *HUGS*
> >> > Monica
> >> >
> >>
>
> --
> Joyce
>