Do adhesions cause pain other than from intestinal related problems? What other pain do they cause? Could the ones in the uterus/bladder area cause pain? What nerve sensors do we have within the belly? Where would it be possible for us to feel pain? Also, the inflammation...can internal inflammation cause pain? Do you know how?
exercise...eekkk...oh my no way other than walking....when the inflammation happens i run a fever...I did two very careful and cautious bounces...without my feet leaving the mat, on a trampoline just to appease my children...I went back in the house and did not go back outside for over a month. Not good at all
Could you explain the part about sitting and the intestines not being able to move up and to the back of the person? I've not been able to understand the deep severe pain caused by sitting but I didn't know the intestines moved up and to the back could you explain this so I can get a picture in my head of how this works? What about the uterus and bladder? My uterus and bladder look as though they are one and several surgeons have attempted to remove the uterus but have been very unsuccessful and it's caused serious problems The bowel as well is attached there unable to safely be freed up. Are those two organs supposed to, "free float" as well...I always feel horrible pain in this area ...it's also where the belly pulls in at least a quarter inch inward. I know I have problems with my bladder...hurts a lot...takes me sometimes ten to thirty minutes to pee and anything in the bladder causes pain...they think probably a fistula , very small, between bladder and intestines is a high probability. I know there was an injury to the area.
Gee I wish someone would write a book...from the patient's perspective...I'd bet it would sell. I'll buy a copy. Even put drawings in there...I don't understand how and why adhesions have changed my life...I just know that they have. I don't understand the physiology but would desperately like to...after all it is my body and I do want to take care of it...inside and out.
I almost spent money to have the adhesions dealt with through some external laser...almost...but it just didn't make any sense to me at all. Thank you
>----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie and Beverly Doucette" <bnb@cybrzn.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
<adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: How do I prevent them from coming back?
> Please send substantiating information as to how PT can soften adhesion
> tissue?
>
> Adhesions are located deep within the abdomen and many surround the
> intestines, as time goes by the adhesion tissue toughens thus constricts
the
> intestine or pulls other attached organs out of position more and more,
how
> can PT help in that process?
> How does a therepist massage adhesion on the bowel? What about in the deep
> abdomen? There ia the large thick rectus muscle as well as a layer of
fatty
> tissue between the surface of the abdomen and the adhesions, how are the
> adhesions massaged?
>
> A TENS unit is a nerve stimulator, how would that be of benefit on
adhesion
> tissue as there is no nerves in adhesion tissue? And where would a TENS be
> placed on a person for abdominal adhesions, as without a laporoscopic
> surgery, it is unknown where the adhesion are and what they are attached
to?
>
> Excersise that cause pulling of the organs that adhesions are connected to
> will increase inflamation thus pain, if a person cannot bend or sit for
long
> due to the intestines not being able to move up and to the back of that
> person becasue they are attched to the peritoneum ( inner abdominal wall )
> wouldn't excersise create even more pain? At times even movement while
> riding in a car can cause pain simply from the motion of the moving
vehicle.
>
> Are there brochures or information on these treatmenst? What has the
history
> been as far as success? How is this success tracked if there is statistics
> on PT & Adhesion disease?
>
> Have you seen adhesion of the bowel or pelvis?
>
> It is imarative that comments of this nature be substantiated for those
who
> are desperatly looking for medical intervetion and it is also important
for
> them not to pay money they do not have in treatments that will be
> ineffective for this disease...it is my opinion that PT will not help
> adhesion sufferers other then to empty the pocket books. BUT...show me
> proof of all that was discribed here and I will be very willing to
research
> it.
>
> Your new here, and we are happy that it worked for you, Paula, and who did
> your surgery? How many surgeries have you had and how may years have you
> suffered with adhesions? Did you have endo as well my dear? Thank-you for
> sharing this and we look forward to hearing more on this and answers to
> these questions as well.
>
> Sincerely yours
> Beverly
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ZIMLICKI,PAULA M <MKT-PMZ@womans.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
<adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:10 PM
> Subject: RE: How do I prevent them from coming back?
>
> > I suffer from adhesions due to so much abdominal surgery. I had one
> surgery
> > for the adhesions, which I always found ironic since surgery is what
> caused
> > them in the first place! The second time the adhesions began giving me
> lots
> > of pain I tried physical therapy, and it worked. The pain was so severe
> that
> > it woke me up whenever I turned over at night. It's important to get a
> > physical therapist who has received specific training in abdominal
> > adhesions. The American Physical Therapy Association, which has a
website,
> > can give you information as to whether a PT in your area is available. I
> > encourage all of you to try this. Through the use of ultrasound, scar
> > massage, heat, TENS unit, and exercises tailored toward the adhesions, I
> was
> > spared another abdominal surgery. The PT treatment does not get rid of
the
> > adhesions but can soften them enough so that they don't cause the pain.
It
> > spared me another abdominal surgery! I would be glad to answer any
> > questions.
> >
> > Paula M. Zimlicki
> >
> > mkt-pmz@womans.com
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: acinom@primenet.com [SMTP:acinom@primenet.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 9:09 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> > > Subject: How do I prevent them from coming back?
> > >
> > > Hi everyone! I just stumbled upon this site tonight, I have yet to
join
> > > the forum, but I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have endo,
I
> > > had 2 laps in 99, and I have another one scheduled for October 30th.
> > > Each of the last times they found more problems with the surgical
> > > adhesions from an appendectomy back in 88 with minimal endo. The
amount
> > > that came back in just 4 months was amazing. Well, the pain is back,
> > > and again I suspect it to be adhesions rather than endo, but who is to
> > > know for sure which is causing the pain since I have both problems? I
> > > dont want to take Lupron or any other hormonal treatment other than
> > > bcp's particularly because I fear the big problem is the adhsions so
why
> > > mess with endo drugs if that isnt the issue? Anyway, my questions for
> > > you are these:
> > > Have any of you tried Acupuncture? Either to relieve pain or to keep
> > > adhesions from reforming (is this possible?)
> > > Is there anything I can do after this surgery to retard the growth of
> > > this stuff?
> > > Please email me at acinom@primenet.com if you can be of any
assistance.
> > > I appreciate it more than you can imagine!
> > > I hope this finds you all pain free and blessed with love and laughter
> > > *HUGS*
> > > Monica
> > >
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> >
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