Re: Good Doctor- But Another Bad Day

From: Richard Hagen (
Sat Jun 26 08:05:12 1999

Interesting comments, Ruth. My wife has had the same experiences. I hate to be negative, but I would doubt that the doctor on staff has a serious problem with adhesions. I think it is more likely that it is a sell job to keep people(with adhesions) from throwing out pain clinics completely. Pain clinics help some. The more I read(forum) the more I realize that something very basic with a persons immune/repair sytem is out of wack(so to speak), i.e. incureable. Knowledge(cause) of why these people on this forum have these extreme pain and adhesion problems will lead to a solution.

Why do the people on this forum have these problems? Is it genetic? Is it enviromental? Is it procedures(surgical)? Is it diet/nutrition? Is it spiritual? Is it mental?

Why are we treated so badly by doctors? Why do they say its in our heads? Why do insurance companies(managed care) give us so much grief? Why are we not taken seriously? Why are we neglected?

I would like to challenge the DOCTORS and PROFFESSIONALS who read this forum to honestly present what they know or do not know to the people who HAVE these problems. Not to all their stuffy snotty peers. Medicine in general has helped many people. How come something as simple as scar tissue makes our lives so miserable?

Do we have to lobby in Washington to get people to take this seriously? Do we have to hold hostage some institution or person before someone says " I think we have a problem Houston".

Have a better day everyone. Keep the chin up and remember you are not alone.

>----- Original Message -----
From: Ruth <> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <> Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 6:03 PM Subject: Good Doctor- But Another Bad Day

> I saw the surgeon today. I was afraid he would tell me that my pain was
> from diverticulosis or that adhesions don't cause pain (How many times
> have I heard that?). But after spending an hour with me, he said
> adhesions were the source of my pain. He was sure of it. I couldn't
> believe my ears. Somebody who believes me. He also said Dr's hate
> patients with adhesions because they are not rewarding patients. Dr's
> like patients who they can fix and say they healed them and never see
> them again. They don't like patients they 'fix' only to have them back
> in the office in 6 months complaining of the same symptoms all over
> again. So a lot of dr's just push us off to the side because they don't
> want to deal with us. He doesn't want to deal with it either but he
> will if he has to. (At least he is honest). He also said they can do
> only so many laparoscopy's before thr recurring adhesions get so dense
> that they have to resort to laparotomy's. And every time they go in it
> increases the chance for a bowel obstruction. He is sending me to a
> pain management clinic first to see if they can help. He said there is
> a Dr. on staff at the hospital with chronic adhesions that the pain
> clinic has been able to help. I just hope someone can help soon. Today
> was another bad day. My appointment at the pain clinic isn't till next
> Friday. I hope I can make it that long. It is to the point that it
> hurts when I walk (the jiggling from walking hurts, especially going
> downstairs), sit for more than 5 minutes, or laugh-which I haven't been
> doing a whole lot of lately.
> Waiting for relief,
> Ruth

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