Re: Rita - Liver flush

From: Rita Steele (steelerita@yahoo.com)
Thu May 16 15:43:10 2002


Shali, I don't know if you got my e-mail about the liver flush or maybe you sent me an e-mail & I didn't get it. Please send it to me ASAP! Also, where do I get ortho phosphoric acid? I went to the surgeon ( he's the Phoenix Suns Team Surgeon) in Phoenix Tues. he wants me to see a gastro Dr. about having an ERCP procedure done, he thinks it may be the opening from my pancreas into my intestines causing my pain. He is putting me back on disability. He said Dr. Nguyen @ the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale should of done the procedure when I went & had a consult with about it in Jan. 2001. Dr. Nguyen charged me $365 for a 20 min. consult my insurance wouldn't pay any of it because they aren't a PPO provider! I have an apt. 6/12/02 with the gastro Dr.. If he doesn't fine anything & the liver flush doesn't get rid of more gallstones & my pain, I'll go back to Dr. Stephens & he will do exploratory surgery. Thanks, Rita --- Shali <Shali9@icdc.com> wrote: > Sure, Em! I will email to you when I get back from
> my appointment today
>
> Shali
>
> At Tue, 14 May 2002, Em wrote:
> >
> >Hi Shali,
> >So, what is the entire recipe for the liver flush?
> I get the general
> >idea, but would love to to hear the entire thing if
> you don't mind.
> >em
> >At Sun, 12 May 2002, Shali wrote:
> >>
> >>Oh goody, goody. Shes going to do another one.
> If you were already
> >>thinking about it, I guess you could say I came
> along to reinforce it. I
> >>would be anxious to know what happens. I dont do
> all that you mention.
> >>I just eat light the day before and OF the oil
> trip. Also, unless you
> >>already know, I would highly recommend doing Ortho
> Phosphoric Acid with
> >>the apple juice so the stones are softened enough
> and dont tear any bile
> >>ducts.Doesnt your recipe call for OPA? Better safe
> than sorry. Sometimes
> >>I didnt do the OPA, but my stones were much
> smaller than yours. Also,
> >>3/4 of a cup of oil works too. I experimented
> because a cup is what it
> >>calls for. Dont think I'd drop it any lower than
> that. Also, what
> >>makes it MUCH more platable is in addition to the
> lemon [which is
> >>mandatory], is tangerine, orange, grapefruit. I
> decided to see if I
> >>could get it down better and I did. I would love
> to have invited the
> >>doctors over and ask them just what they think the
> toilet filled with
> >>green chaffe was if it didnt come out of the
> gallbladder when the
> >>gallbladder doesnt know what to do with all that
> oil and flushes them
> >>out. I guess they would call it pure coincidence
> that I drank a cup of
> >>oil and got all these things out that LOOK like
> gallbladder stones.
> >>Well, my mom HAD gallbladder surgery and the
> doctor showed her what they
> >>look liked and when she saw mine, she confirmed
> they were stones. She
> >>tells everyone with gallbladder problems about the
> flush. I say they
> >>[doctors] can see whatever they WANT to see. But
> since - as usual -
> >>they cant fix the problem, theyre not going to
> acknowledge it. Surely,
> >>they cant start tearing into the liver. But guess
> what? We can remove
> >>them anyway! I dont do the epsom salts. The
> recipe calls for it but I
> >>think its too harsh. Just make sure you do
> laxatives so the bowel isnt
> >>bogged down and what is really ideal is a colonic.
> Glad you had a nice
> >>day. Wish I could eat without all the symptoms.
> Some day soon.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Shali
> >>
> >>At Sun, 12 May 2002, Rita Steele wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Hi Shali,
> >>>Thanks for responding so quickly. You've really
> done
> >>>the flush 8 times! I've honestly thought about
> doing
> >>>it again thinking a stone may be lodged in my
> bile
> >>>duct.Apparently they can't see gallstones in the
> liver
> >>>on MRI's, Ct scans, etc.. I didn't realize they
> could
> >>>be found in the liver, none of the Drs. ever
> mentioned
> >>>this. But none of them believe me when I tell
> them I
> >>>actually passed them. My daughter-in-law is an RN
> &
> >>>she was taught you couldn't pass them but she
> believes
> >>>me. I had an epidural last Oct. & all it did was
> make
> >>>my pain worse! I will take your advice & do the
> flush
> >>>again as much as I hate the thought. My flush is
> a 3
> >>>day ordeal, also. Does your recipe call for
> fasting,
> >>>epsom salts, fruit salad w/whipped cream, olive
> >>>oil,lemons, & chamomille tea? Thanks ever so
> much,
> >>>Shali. I hope you had a good day. My Kids took me
> out
> >>>for lunch & a movie. We had a nice day.
> >>>Rita
> >>>
> >>>--- Shali <Shali9@icdc.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Rita -
> >>>>
> >>>> One flush does not get them all out. As I
> said, the
> >>>> liver holds about
> >>>> 2,000. The only stones that pass are the ones
> that
> >>>> are ready to go and
> >>>> I say you have more in there if you got what
> you did
> >>>> the first time
> >>>> around. There is no doubt in my mind. Ive
> known
> >>>> lots of people in the
> >>>> same predicament. Ive done 8 flushes total and
> each
> >>>> time, there were
> >>>> stones until I eventually got none. The
> epidural
> >>>> I'll never do again.
> >>>> AS they were removing it, it left my upper left
> >>>> thigh numb. That was 7
> >>>> months ago. Its still numb. I also took
> everyone
> >>>> else's advice that
> >>>> the epidural was the way to go. It didn't work
> >>>> anyway as toning down
> >>>> any pain. And yes, I am all too familiar with
> as
> >>>> long as youre walking,
> >>>> you aint sick. But back to the stones, you got
> some
> >>>> fairly large ones
> >>>> out. Who's to say theres not one in there the
> size
> >>>> of a golf ball
> >>>> making you feel the way you do? Or a hundred
> more
> >>>> small ones. Its when
> >>>> they get caught in the bile ducts too that
> cause
> >>>> pain. You just oughta
> >>>> consider another one while youre waiting on
> surgery.
> >>>> Yes I agree, the
> >>>> oil is disgusting but it sure is effective
> without
> >>>> being cut open!
> >>>>
> >>>> Shali
> >>>>
> >>>> At Sun, 12 May 2002, Rita Steele wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Shali,
> >>>> >I did the liver/gallbladder flush before I had
> my
> >>>> >gallbladder out. My Chiropractor gave me the
> >>>> recipe.
> >>>> >On 2/14/00 I passed @ least 40 stones from
> pinhead
> >>>> >size to large grape size. The recipe was
> >>>> throuroughly
> >>>> >disgusting but I was desperate! But I
> continued to
> >>>> be
> >>>> >in severe pain so I went to a gastro Dr. & I
> took
> >>>> >several of the stones with me, he wouldn't
> even
> >>>> look @
> >>>> >them & said you could not pass stones! I had
> an
> >>>> >ultrasound that showed I had no stones in my
> >>>> >gallbladder, imagine that! Finally I was given
> a
> >>>> HIDA
> >>>> >scan that came back that my gallbladder was
> only
> >>>> >functioning @ 4%. So after suffering for two
> months
> >>>> I
> >>>> >had my gallbladder removed, but the pain got
> worse
> >>>> >after surgery. I'm not on any pain meds. Drs.
> a
> >>>> very
> >>>> >reluctant to prescribe me anything that works.
> So I
>
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