Re: Sharonda-Re: Why didn't he take care of things while he was in there?

From: Helen Dynda (
Fri Oct 1 13:38:56 1999

I am not a medical professional; but I have read that;

** When a surgeon does a diagnostic laparoscopy, this is the only purpose of the surgery - for a diagnosis!!! If surgery is warranted, then surgery is scheduled for another date.

** Surgeons generally limit their surgical expertise to their specialty. An gynecologic surgeon specializes in gynecological surgery. A gastro-intestinal GI) surgeon specializes in GI surgery.

At Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Ginny King wrote: >
>Hey Sharonda,
>I had thought of trying Perloe as well, but was worried since his
>specialty is fertility that he may not want or have time to see me as I
>have had a hysterectomy as well. You probably should see a GI as the
>adhesions on my bowel are as painful as the ones I used to have glued to
>my uterus. Although the GI treats more of the iniside of the bowel. I
>think we all get to the point that more surgery can do more harm than
>good with adhesions. It is a depressing diagnosis to receive as you
>feel like there should be something else that they can do. I do not
>understand though why he did not take care of things while he was in
>there? Of course, I'm one to talk as my gyn left the bowel adhesions
>that had glued my appendix and colon to my right side when he did the
>hysterectomy. I still do not understand why he did not go ahead and
>take them down while he was in there. Now, no one wants to go in again.
>I'll let you know how the pain clinic goes. Take care of yourself.
>At Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Sharonda Moore wrote:
>>I was happy until he decided that his diagnostic surgery was enough and
>>feeding me narcotics would suffice. That shocked me - its not like it is a
>>standstill, as a matter of fact it made things worse to have surgery with
>>him since he only cut one ovary lose and didn't remove the adhesion, left
>>the other one strapped and left the adhesions covered and went no where near
>>my uticolon (my new term for the uterus and colon bound together). He's not
>>a bad ob but he's not used to endo - he had only 3 patients and he did a
>>hyst on one.
>>He's J. Adams in Fayetteville. I am just having more problems, I can eat
>>certain foods and my whole intestines contracts and its literally burns,
>>especially around my back. Sometimes the pain just shows up. On top of that
>>I get constipated all the time and its getting painful to go. On top of all
>>that I still have the monthly cramps, starting 2 weeks before. I am through
>>with hormones b/c they are unpredictable with me and in the end don't work.
>>Funny thing today, the HR person and I disagree on my disabled status and
>>she had the nerve to ask me if I was sick and if it really hurt that bad.
>>Maybe I should copy my surgical pictures and show all the fun cysts, endo
>>and adhesions.
>>Right now I am jumping through hoops to see Perloe. I had to change
>>doctors, wait for it to take effect and then see a doctor that will refer
>>Enough of my ranting and raving. Maybe I should check out your docs. I
>>probably need to have GI tests to see the full extent.
>>Thanks for the info.
>>>From: (Ginny King)
>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>>>Subject: Sharonda-Re: hello
>>>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:46:02 -0500
>>>Hey Sharonda,
>>>I posted to you a minute ago and it just vanished, so if you get this
>>>twice...sorry. I thought that I had seen in earlier post that you were
>>>from Atlanta as well. My current gyn is Norman Fried in Snellville. I
>>>live in Roswell but have been going to him for ten years as he is one of
>>>the few specialist that has remained no matter what insurance my company
>>>decided to switch to. My GI is Diane Wisebraum at Northside. She is
>>>wonderful and is the one to finally diagnose the Crohn's. My surgeon is
>>>Eugene Davidson also at Northside. He is very conservative regarding
>>>adhesions and surgery and does not want to it again with me unless it's
>>>an emergency. He is the one that is sending me to the pain clinic at
>>>St. Joe's. I start October 11th and I'm a little nervous. I have
>>>thought about changing my gyn to one who is a little closer. I thought
>>>I had read in the past that you had a doctor that you were very happy
>>>with, I don't remember the specialty. If you don't mind my asking, who
>>>do you see? Best wishes. Ginny
>>>At Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Sharonda Moore wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Way to Go Ginny!!! Go Braves and Chipper Jones!!!
>>> >
>>> >Ginny,
>>> >
>>> >How are you doing? What doctor have you been seeing here?
>>> >
>>> >Sharonda
>>> >
>>> >>From: (Ginny King)
>>> >>Reply-To:
>>> >>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>>> >>Subject: Re: hello
>>> >>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:37:24 -0500
>>> >>
>>> >>Hi Toni,
>>> >>
>>> >>Sorry I can't root for the Reds (Sorry I'm from Atlanta) but I do hope
>>> >>you get to go to the game and enjoy yourself. I think you could use a
>>> >>pleasant outing with your family. Take care and get some rest. God
>>> >>bless. Ginny
>>> >>
>>> >>At Wed, 29 Sep 1999, toni welsh wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Just a small post to see how you are all doing. I am having an okay
>>> >> >day, but as our days go on they seem to get harder, tonight I am just
>>> >> >going to sit in front of the tv, our cinti reds are awsome this year,
>>> >> >and they are in the pennant race, exciting. I went to but tickets for
>>> >> >the first playoff game in cincy, so hoe they go! We got pretty good
>>> >> >seats to right behind home plate, my son and his girlfriend are going
>>> >> >with us.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >That was the excitement of my day, the loger this goes on, the more I
>>> >> >stay at home, but when I stopped to get tickets, picked some other
>>> >> >things for dinner, and I had a terrible cramping spell and had to come
>>> >> >home, just never know when this os going to act up. I know part of it
>>> >> >is irritable bowel, but the pulling and hard pain is always on the
>>> >> >side, the gynseems to think the bowel may be stuck to the right side
>>> >> >on the abdominal wall. I am sorry I rattled on, hope you are all
>>> >> >okay!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Your friend
>>> >> >Toni From Cinti, routing for the REDS!
>>> >>
>Ginny King

The 15th century proverb which summarizes the purpose of medicine is:
* To cure sometimes, to relieve often, to comfort always. *

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