> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:43:45 -0600
> From: louc829@gmail.com
> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
>
> What year did you go to Germany,
> am sorry that you had a few unfortunate experiences and yes does cost
> alot to go to Germany,
> it makes no sense that the spraygel is made in the US and is not used
> by the Drs,
> look at the money that would be saved, and the people it would help
> who suffer with
> adhesion's, what is wrong with the FDA, its sold in other country's,
> just think one could go locally to have adhesion surgery with sraygel
> are you in pain now?
> Take care
> Lou
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:50 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com> wrote:
> > Dr. Kruschinski did my surgery in Germany. If I could ever come up with the
> > money again, I would go back and try again. I had a few unfortunate
> > experiences getting hurt 7 weeks post op, returning to work way too soon
> > because the pressure was on, and then had my Gallbladder removed. The nicest
> > thing was in Germany, they do not use gas to extend your abdomen. When you
> > are recovering, you don't deal with the awful gas pain that feels like
> > someone is sticking a shovel in your shoulder. The saddest part for me is
> > that I will never completely know the results of my 2 surgeries because of
> > circumstances. My stomach no longer sucks in and gets stuck so that is
> > positive. I feel the reason more and more patients are dealing with
> > adhesions is because the Surgeons are in way too much of a hurry and that
> > also they are not cleaning out the area with the Saline as well as they
> > should too. It is so hard to be so miserable in pain all of the time. Since
> > Confluent Surgical (the company that invented Spray Gel) is in the U.S. that
> > they would catch some sort of a BREAK with the F.D.A. Good luck, Cheryl D.
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:26:51 -0600
> >> From: louc829@gmail.com
> >> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
> >> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
> >>
> >> Who did your surgery in Germany?
> >> Lou
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:39 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Mark, all I know about adhesions is that Gas being used to extend the
> >> > abdomen for surgery causes it, a speck of talc off of gloves, a piece of
> >> > whatever is used to absorb blood during surgery. I have had 11 abdominal
> >> > surgeries. When I had 12 inches of my colon removed for Diverticulitis,
> >> > that
> >> > is when my adhesions started. Before that surgery in 2002, I had 2
> >> > c-sections, hysterectomy, one ovary, and then the other, tubal and
> >> > exploratory. It was when my bowel was messed with that they started 2
> >> > weeks
> >> > after surgery. The Lysis surgery I had in Germany, my large, and small
> >> > intestine were stuck to my colon, my stomach was literally sucked in and
> >> > stuck, it was physically noticeable, it blew my Gastro away. I was also
> >> > told
> >> > that I had remnants of my ovary left behind with a cyst on it on my
> >> > right
> >> > side. It was not that at all, it was a mass of adhesions. I am one of
> >> > those
> >> > people that are a bit hyperactive. When I have had all of my surgeries,
> >> > I
> >> > find tricky ways to clean the house, dust, cook etc. I feel that because
> >> > of
> >> > being active too soon after surgeries contributed to my adhesions. I
> >> > only
> >> > hurt myself! I have promised myself that If I ever have another
> >> > abdominal
> >> > surgery for adhesions, I will sit on my rear end, or lay down and rest
> >> > until
> >> > I am well. That is a Big if on a surgery again. I hope this helps.
> >> > Cheryl D.
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:02:57 -0600
> >> >> From: mark7@skynetbb.com
> >> >> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
> >> >> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
> >> >>
> >> >> At Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Natrlady21@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Does anyone know what makes existing adhesions continue to grow
> >> >> > (spread)?
> >> >> > By
> >> >> >doin certain activities etc. Are there professional articles that talk
> >> >> > about
> >> >> >this?
> >> >> >
> >> >> Mark writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> Without a source of inflammation, I don't think adhesions can spread.
> >> >> Sources of inflmmation include: surgery, endometriosis, radiation.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you don't mind a little conjecture, I've had email correspondence
> >> >> from two women who claim ahdesions have formed for none of these
> >> >> reasons. Just spontaneous formation. I have no reason to doubt their
> >> >> word. So who knows? I have skin eczema which is a spontaneous skin
> >> >> inflammation that I can't seem to stop. My skin will literally ooze
> >> >> liquid for no good reason. So maybe that happens on the inside of my
> >> >> body, too.
> >> >>
> >> >> Your question, however, may have to do with something else we hear on
> >> >> this forum quite a lot. We often hear reports from people saying that
> >> >> their doctor has observed adhesions "in greater numbers" than observed
> >> >> in the same patient in a previous surgery. Also many people will make a
> >> >> statement like, "I had surgery to clean out my adhesions, but they grew
> >> >> back in greater numbers." or They will say "their back." This could
> >> >> mean
> >> >> simply that the doctor released the pressure but cutting an "offending"
> >> >> adhesion, but the wounded adhesion oozes more fibrin and reconnects
> >> >> immediately after surgery. Time passes, the body shifts and the same
> >> >> adhesion comes under tension again, resulting in discomfort.
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope this helps. But of course, I know it's not a sufficient answer.
> >> >> I'm probably touching on the truth, but I know I'm not quite there. The
> >> >> truth is that I think nobody can fully explain this awful disease to my
> >> >> satisfaction. For example, I have yet to hear a good explanation of how
> >> >> temporary fibrin deposits can then turn into a permanent adhesion. I'm
> >> >> not satisfied with the explanation that fibrin is the only protein
> >> >> involved. I think there's another process at work. See wikipedia
> >> >> article on 'wound healing.' for more info. I haven't read it all. I
> >> >> get tired easily. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yours,
> >> >>
> >> >> Mark in Seattle
> >> >>
> >> >> to the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm
> >> >
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