> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:26:51 -0600
> From: louc829@gmail.com
> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
>
> Who did your surgery in Germany?
> Lou
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:39 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com> wrote:
> > Hi Mark, all I know about adhesions is that Gas being used to extend the
> > abdomen for surgery causes it, a speck of talc off of gloves, a piece of
> > whatever is used to absorb blood during surgery. I have had 11 abdominal
> > surgeries. When I had 12 inches of my colon removed for Diverticulitis, that
> > is when my adhesions started. Before that surgery in 2002, I had 2
> > c-sections, hysterectomy, one ovary, and then the other, tubal and
> > exploratory. It was when my bowel was messed with that they started 2 weeks
> > after surgery. The Lysis surgery I had in Germany, my large, and small
> > intestine were stuck to my colon, my stomach was literally sucked in and
> > stuck, it was physically noticeable, it blew my Gastro away. I was also told
> > that I had remnants of my ovary left behind with a cyst on it on my right
> > side. It was not that at all, it was a mass of adhesions. I am one of those
> > people that are a bit hyperactive. When I have had all of my surgeries, I
> > find tricky ways to clean the house, dust, cook etc. I feel that because of
> > being active too soon after surgeries contributed to my adhesions. I only
> > hurt myself! I have promised myself that If I ever have another abdominal
> > surgery for adhesions, I will sit on my rear end, or lay down and rest until
> > I am well. That is a Big if on a surgery again. I hope this helps. Cheryl D.
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:02:57 -0600
> >> From: mark7@skynetbb.com
> >> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
> >> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
> >>
> >> At Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Natrlady21@aol.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Does anyone know what makes existing adhesions continue to grow (spread)?
> >> > By
> >> >doin certain activities etc. Are there professional articles that talk
> >> > about
> >> >this?
> >> >
> >> Mark writes:
> >>
> >> Without a source of inflammation, I don't think adhesions can spread..
> >> Sources of inflmmation include: surgery, endometriosis, radiation.
> >>
> >> If you don't mind a little conjecture, I've had email correspondence
> >> from two women who claim ahdesions have formed for none of these
> >> reasons. Just spontaneous formation. I have no reason to doubt their
> >> word. So who knows? I have skin eczema which is a spontaneous skin
> >> inflammation that I can't seem to stop. My skin will literally ooze
> >> liquid for no good reason. So maybe that happens on the inside of my
> >> body, too.
> >>
> >> Your question, however, may have to do with something else we hear on
> >> this forum quite a lot. We often hear reports from people saying that
> >> their doctor has observed adhesions "in greater numbers" than observed
> >> in the same patient in a previous surgery. Also many people will make a
> >> statement like, "I had surgery to clean out my adhesions, but they grew
> >> back in greater numbers." or They will say "their back." This could mean
> >> simply that the doctor released the pressure but cutting an "offending"
> >> adhesion, but the wounded adhesion oozes more fibrin and reconnects
> >> immediately after surgery. Time passes, the body shifts and the same
> >> adhesion comes under tension again, resulting in discomfort.
> >>
> >> I hope this helps. But of course, I know it's not a sufficient answer.
> >> I'm probably touching on the truth, but I know I'm not quite there. The
> >> truth is that I think nobody can fully explain this awful disease to my
> >> satisfaction. For example, I have yet to hear a good explanation of how
> >> temporary fibrin deposits can then turn into a permanent adhesion. I'm
> >> not satisfied with the explanation that fibrin is the only protein
> >> involved. I think there's another process at work. See wikipedia
> >> article on 'wound healing.' for more info. I haven't read it all. I
> >> get tired easily. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >>
> >> Mark in Seattle
> >>
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