Re: ?How do adhesions grow?

From: LOU COOPER (louc829@gmail.com)
Fri Feb 27 18:24:47 2009


Who did your surgery in Germany? Lou

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:39 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com> wrote: > Hi Mark, all I know about adhesions is that Gas being used to extend the
> abdomen for surgery causes it, a speck of talc off of gloves, a piece of
> whatever is used to absorb blood during surgery. I have had 11 abdominal
> surgeries. When I had 12 inches of my colon removed for Diverticulitis, that
> is when my adhesions started. Before that surgery in 2002, I had 2
> c-sections, hysterectomy, one ovary, and then the other, tubal and
> exploratory. It was when my bowel was messed with that they started 2 weeks
> after surgery. The Lysis surgery I had in Germany, my large, and small
> intestine were stuck to my colon, my stomach was literally sucked in and
> stuck, it was physically noticeable, it blew my Gastro away. I was also told
> that I had remnants of my ovary left behind with a cyst on it on my right
> side. It was not that at all, it was a mass of adhesions. I am one of those
> people that are a bit hyperactive. When I have had all of my surgeries, I
> find tricky ways to clean the house, dust, cook etc. I feel that because of
> being active too soon after surgeries contributed to my adhesions. I only
> hurt myself! I have promised myself that If I ever have another abdominal
> surgery for adhesions, I will sit on my rear end, or lay down and rest until
> I am well. That is a Big if on a surgery again. I hope this helps. Cheryl D.
>
>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:02:57 -0600
>> From: mark7@skynetbb.com
>> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
>> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
>>
>> At Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Natrlady21@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >Does anyone know what makes existing adhesions continue to grow (spread)?
>> > By
>> >doin certain activities etc. Are there professional articles that talk
>> > about
>> >this?
>> >
>> Mark writes:
>>
>> Without a source of inflammation, I don't think adhesions can spread.
>> Sources of inflmmation include: surgery, endometriosis, radiation.
>>
>> If you don't mind a little conjecture, I've had email correspondence
>> from two women who claim ahdesions have formed for none of these
>> reasons. Just spontaneous formation. I have no reason to doubt their
>> word. So who knows? I have skin eczema which is a spontaneous skin
>> inflammation that I can't seem to stop. My skin will literally ooze
>> liquid for no good reason. So maybe that happens on the inside of my
>> body, too.
>>
>> Your question, however, may have to do with something else we hear on
>> this forum quite a lot. We often hear reports from people saying that
>> their doctor has observed adhesions "in greater numbers" than observed
>> in the same patient in a previous surgery. Also many people will make a
>> statement like, "I had surgery to clean out my adhesions, but they grew
>> back in greater numbers." or They will say "their back." This could mean
>> simply that the doctor released the pressure but cutting an "offending"
>> adhesion, but the wounded adhesion oozes more fibrin and reconnects
>> immediately after surgery. Time passes, the body shifts and the same
>> adhesion comes under tension again, resulting in discomfort.
>>
>> I hope this helps. But of course, I know it's not a sufficient answer.
>> I'm probably touching on the truth, but I know I'm not quite there. The
>> truth is that I think nobody can fully explain this awful disease to my
>> satisfaction. For example, I have yet to hear a good explanation of how
>> temporary fibrin deposits can then turn into a permanent adhesion. I'm
>> not satisfied with the explanation that fibrin is the only protein
>> involved. I think there's another process at work. See wikipedia
>> article on 'wound healing.' for more info. I haven't read it all. I
>> get tired easily. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Mark in Seattle
>>
>> http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm
>


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