Re: ADHESIONS digest 938

From: jetstamp (jetstamp@yahoo.com)
Wed Feb 25 18:55:49 2009


At Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Kristine Lovaas wrote: >
>Hi Wendy! I'm having surgery on Tuesday, the 3rd of March by Dr. Eric Johnson @ Abbott Northwestern in Minneapolis. He is with Surgical Specialists of Minnesota. His number is 612.863.7770. He's a great doctor. I did a lot of research about him, talked to several other doctors for their opinion and met with him twice. All the feedback has been very positive. He's done many successful adhesions removal surgeries. He said he's done it successfully on 15 nurses @ Abbott alone. I asked him why so many nurses. He said that nurses are more prone to adhesions after having abdominal surgeries because of the lifting they do of patients, etc. I think the fact that these nurses chose him to do their surgeries also speaks to his capabilities since they work with many surgeons in their jobs @ Abbott. I can't wait to have this done. I'll update everyone when I get home about the results. Take care, everyone!  Kris
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Yes Kris, do let us know how you are doing as soon as you are able. Did they tell you how long you would be in the hospital? Also, if you work, how long do they expect you will need to stay home for recovery?

Did Dr. Johnson discuss any ideas as to how to prevent the adhesions from returning- like how soon and how much you should move around, and did he talk about using a specific adhesion barrier? Not too long ago I watched a TV news report (not local Twin Cities, however) somewhere on the internet that told about a woman who had not enjoyed eating for quite some time due to adhesions. She finally had surgery for the adhesions and they used Seprafilm- she apparently was doing fine and was able to enjoy eating again but I don't remember how long it had been since her surgery- maybe a year but not sure.

Not trying to influence you, but I have read some reports stating that lycopene 'might' help with adhesions. It is still mainly just a 'theory' according to Dr. Andrew Weil, but if you don't mind tomato juice, what the heck! I'm taking lycopene capsules and also try to drink some tomato juice every day. I take other supplements as well- too numerous to mention and quite expensive but have doubts as to whether they can dissolve adhesions, but maybe would be more effective at preventing them if you are fortunate enough to have surgery. Just a thought.

Also, I was wondering where you had your colonoscopy done. I am thinking about having one after reading your story. However, back in the 1990s I had an endoscopy, sigmoidoscopy, barium, and one colonoscopy and were told they were normal. I have had only one such exam since my useless hysterectomy in 1998- a sigmoidoscopy which was probably 7-8 years ago. The sigmoidoscopy went fine until it got to my lower abdomen in the bikini area that set off the worst pain in the same area where I often have experienced it (I still have a nasty scar there from a myomectomy in 1991) The doctor said 'Does that hurt?' and I nodded. But there was absolutely no discussion about the test or why I felt pain when/where I did. I was rushed out as usual.

One thing interesting I read about a doctor at one of the Mayo clinics- not the Minnesota one, either Florida or Arizona. Anyway, she said that usually during bariums the doctor leaves the room and does something else, and then comes back to see if the barium made it through, and if it did, it is assumed that everything is OK. She said that one time she decided to stay and watch the barium as it went through, and she noticed an area where the fluid slowed down, which alerted her to a potential problem. I wonder if any other doctors do this.

So, I'm thinking of maybe going to a place that does only gastro stuff- like maybe Minnesota Gastroenterology. There is also a company that goes by the name Colon and Rectal Associates or something like that. My insurance states that I do not need a referral to see a specialist, but don't know if any clinics may have their own policy of requiring a referral- which would be a pain since it is so difficult to get cooperation from anyone.

I have even considered scheduling an appointment with a surgeon myself- after all I believe they are considered 'specialists'- they come up as a category on my insurance companies' site- supposedly part of their job is diagnostic as well as regular surgery. However, I'm gun-shy as I can imagine them saying, 'Why are you here? Who sent you here?' To which I could honestly say, 'I sent me here. I'm my own doctor and my insurance does not require a referral to see you anyway!' but of course wouldn't dare actually say!

Keep in touch!

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jetstamp

  > >________________________________ >From: AdheDHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> >________________________________ >Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:19:28 PM >Subject: ADHESIONS digest 938 > >                ADHESIONS Digest 938 > >Topics covered in this issue include: > >  1) Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL) >    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com >  2) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out >    by barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy) >  3) Re: ADHESIONS digest 923 >    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy) >  4) RE: Dr. Gerhart >    by "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins" <jenniferw@bellarmine.edu> >  5) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out >    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net> >  6) SSI/Disablity >    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net> >  7) RE: SSI/Disablity >    by Lori OLSON <dumblnddzzy@msn.com> >  8) Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net> >  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >    by teatime47@aol.com > >-------------------------------------------------yEbbe3@aol.com To: adhesions@adhesions.org Subject: Re: Surgery--Would >by teatime47@aol.com >-------------------------------------------------yEbbe3@aol.com To: adhesions@adhesions.org Subject: Re: Surgery--Would > >-------------------------------------------------yEbbe3@aol.com To: adhesions@adhesions.org Subject: Re: Surgery--Would >-------------------------------------------------you do it again? (POLL) Message-ID: <d25.45ecd60d.36d6a5fc@aol.com> MIM>by teatime47@aol.com >-------------------------------------------------you do it again? (POLL) Message-ID: <d25.45ecd60d.36d6a5fc@aol.com> MIM> >-------------------------------------------------you do it again? (POLL) Message-ID: <d25.45ecd60d.36d6a5fc@aol.com> MIM>-------------------------------------------------E-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1235569660" >-------------------------------------------------E-Version: 1.0 > >-------------------------------------------------E-Version: 1.0 >-------------------------------1235569660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer->--------------------1235569660" >-------------------------------1235569660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-> >-------------------------------1235569660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer->-------------------------------1235Encoding: 7bit

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Anyone knows of a go>od >surgeon in MN please let me know. >Wendy<FONT face=Webdings color=#ff0000 >size=2>========<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 s>ize=2>Original >Message===== >==== ><TABLE >style="BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0 1px solid; FON>T-SIZE: 10pt; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0 1px sol>id; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e0e0e0" >cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0> >  >    Subj: >    Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL) >  >    Date: >    2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. 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(POLL)>>For those that have had surgery strictly >for >removing the adhesions ...>would you do it again?>>Your> >answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery>f>or >mine.  I'm just >curious.>>Thanks,>Katie>>tm>htm<BR>>To >remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please got>o >the unsubscribe form at http://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htmp.s.>for >the web forum version see >http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm<font style="co>lor:black;font:normal 10pt arial,san-serif;"> <hr style="margin-top:10px"/>>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. <a href="http://pr.atwola.com/pro>moclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditr>eport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3Dfebemailfo>oterNO62"> See yours in just 2 easy steps!</HTML== > >-------------------------------1235569660-- > >-------------------------------1235569660-- >To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go=0Ato the unsubsc= >-------------------------------1235569660-- > >-------------------------------1235569660-- > >-------------------------------1235569660-- >To remove yourseribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm=0Ap.s. for the we= >-------------------------------1235569660-- > >-------------------------------1235569660-- > >-------------------------------1235569660-- >To remove yourseb forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm >-------------------------------1235569660-- > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST)=0AFrom: barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy)=0ATo: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net=0ASubject:= >------------------------------ >------------------------ > >------------------------ >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out=0AMessage-ID: <200902251752.n1P= >------------------------ >------------------------ > >------------------------ >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST)HqP728447@mail.obgyn.net> > >I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain >specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not >believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the >one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop me >down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would >not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep >"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind >that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visit >is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any >other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to >happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am >barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is >the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more >afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please >someone send me an e-mail. > >At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote: >> >>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a >>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back >>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain. >> >>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some >>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be >>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch >>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more >>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like >>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. >> >>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >>begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >>work something out. So far, so good. >> >>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably >>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. >> >>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live >>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your >>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he >>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally >> >-- >Dr.Cuddyessage.htm > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CST)=0AFrom: WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)=0ATo: adhesions@= >------------------------------ >essage.htm > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 20mail.obgyn.net=0ASubject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923=0AMessage-ID: <200902251= >------------------------------ >essage.htm > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 20753.n1PHrr930306@mail.obgyn.net> >------------------------------ > >Kris, > >Who's the surgeon in Minneapolis? I'm in MN and looking for a good  surgeon. >I've already been to The Mayo clinic and the U of M and they were no  help at >all. > >Wendy > >========Original  Message======== >=    Subj: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923  Date: >2/22/2009 11:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _klmurray_61@msn.com_ >(mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ >(mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    > >I live in New Mexico and have been to MN to Mayo and also the University of  >MN.  No help at either of these places. It has been several years. >Hey, by the way, I have a uncle named Ron Peterson that lives in  >Minneapolis. (Prior Lake)  He isn't a Dr >>. though. >Kelly >

>>----- Original Message ----- >From: _Kristine Lovaas_ (mailto:krisl1204@yahoo.com)  >To: _Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS_ >(mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:46  PM >Subject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923 > >Was his name Dr. Ron Peterson? I live in MN, had him as an OB/GYN. He did  >surgery on me 5 years ago for a right side ovarian cyst. It ruptured before  the >surgery was scheduled, and we had to move the date up. i never had any  >pelvic pain until after that surgery, in spite of having an appendectomy in  1973, >2 C-sections in 1977 and 1978, and ectopic pregnancy in 1986 and a  partial >hysterectomy in 1991. i started having the awful pain and nausea that  all of us >go through about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a colonoscopy 2 years ago  that took >the doctor an hour and half to complete because of adhesions. i'd  never even >heard of the the condition prior to that. i'll make the long  medical saga >short. After so many tests to rule out everything else, i'm  having surgery on >Tuesday, March 3rd in Minneapolis to have adhesions removed.  I've researched >the surgeon and had conversations with several doctors who  allspeak to his >success. I'm really hoping for good results. I've read so much  on this site and >haven't responded before. Take care, everyone. i wish you all  pain tolerant >days! Kris > >------------------nnifer B. Blevins" To: <adhesions@adhesions.or>ion see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm >------------------nnifer B. Blevins" To: <adhesions@adhesions.or> >------------------nnifer B. Blevins" To: <adhesions@adhesions.or>------------------g> Subject: RE: Dr. Gerhart Message-ID: <14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871>ion see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm >------------------g> Subject: RE: Dr. Gerhart Message-ID: <14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871> >------------------g> Subject: RE: Dr. Gerhart Message-ID: <14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871>------------------E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu> >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message >------------------E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >------------------E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu> >Content-Type: multipart/mixed; >    boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C99772.DE993372" > >------_=_NextPart_001_01C99772.DE993372 >Content-Type: text/plain; >    charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >I had surgery with Dr. Gerhart about 1 1/2 ago.  Everything went >smoothly.  He cut adhesions between my liver and dueodenum(sp?) and took >biopsies of several spots on my diaprhagm and bowels.  He took pictures >of the surgery and spots all over my insides.  Turns out it was endo >everywhere.  Before surgery it kind of felt like I had a lapband >preventing me from eating anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and >process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very >professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  >I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well. > >________________________________

From: adhesions@adhesions.org on behalf of Marlene Wheeler Sent: Tu>him and he took my insurance as well. >________________________________

From: adhesions@adhesions.org on behalf of Marlene Wheeler Sent: Tu> >________________________________e 2/24/2009 5:54 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >________________________________e 2/24/2009 5:54 PM >Subject: RE: Dr. Gerhart > >Kim, >I had surgery with Dr Gerhart about 2 1/2 years ago.  I highly recommend >him. He's a wonderful Doctor, and is very up on the new barriers etc. I >had a go around with surgeons here, on who tried to help me and made >things worse. Two others who wouldn't touch me. Meanwhile I was getting >sicker and sicker. I finally had enough and through this web site and a >lot or research I found Dr G. ( I wish I had found him about a year >earlier!!but??) Anyway by the time I got to him I was in pretty bad >shape. The bad part was I had bowel that had tried to atrophy because of >the docs here not doing anything, so I'll always have to watch what I >eat. The good part is he was able to help. I'm doing a lot better. I >believe he saved my life. (My right side was a total mess, almost lost >ureter/rt kidney because of the mess). I still keep in touch with him in >case I every have to go back. As you know these things can come back. I >thank God everyday that I found him, otherwise I wouldn't be here to >enjoy my children, and actually have a life. >Good Luck >Marlene >I also know a couple other people who have had surgery with him, with >good results. They don't go on this site. I don't want to give out >names. All I can say is if anyone can help you, I'm sure he will. > >> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:29:16 -0600 >> From: kkajark@aol.com >> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net >> Subject: Dr. Gerhart >> >> I would really like to hear from anyone who have had surgery with Dr. >> Gerhart. I sent my records to him to review but this will be my 10th >> surgery. As some of you have pointed out I should not go into surgery >> lightly. I want to make the right decision. My previous Dr could not >> do the surgery because of the density of the adhesions so I need a >very >> good experienced doc who will not damage any of my organs. Thanks for >> your input. >> Kim >> >http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >____________________ws Live. View = post. = <http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiet> >____________________ws Live. 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text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in th== > >e Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery >in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doc>tors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am >so tired at being looked at like a addict. > >I feel we are like overweig>ht people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losin>g weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  M>y friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she c>ould not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out>of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other thi== > >ngs.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She >ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control. > >I fee>l like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions. >Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and p>robably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that th>at adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  T>here are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Fin>ding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.  > >I am g== > >oing through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get >out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they>just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease. >> >Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk>. > >Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end. >Alta > >> >________________________________ >From: Cuddy = >________________________________ > >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS S== >__________________________ >From: Cuddy = >__________________________ > >To: >ent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM >Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sa>lly/pain meds worked out > >I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with t>he PID.  My pain >specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I o>riginally did not >believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain>specialist (the >one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percoc>et and drop me >down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a litt>le, I would >not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he canno>t keep >"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep>in mind >that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My ne>xt visit >is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there >is any >other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is g>oing to >happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am> >barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is> >the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am mo>re >afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pl>ease >someone send me an e-mail. > >At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wro== > >te: >> >>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was>too for a >>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had dec>ided to cut back >>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened wa>s pain, pain, pain. >> >>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worke>d yet. I wish there was some >>way you could ommunicate with your present >doctor that it doesn't have to be >>either this or that. I'm trying a comb>ination of opiates, including the patch >>and oxycontin, plus a few other >milder ones. The point is not to take more >>pills or medication. The poin>t is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >>the minimum quanitiy o== > >f medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >>If I'm feeling in>so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like >>screaming I take >a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >>tremendous>ly. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. >> >>Is there any w>ay you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >>him. Mine g>ets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >>compassio>nate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >>begin>to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >>>work something out. So far, so good. >> >>Your doctor unfortunately sound== > >s a little childish, sorry, but you probably >>already think this. He shou>ldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >>he should be aware t>hat extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. >> >>We're not >in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live >>somew>hat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >>r>eading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your> >>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it>, he >>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally >> >-- >Dr.Cuddy >== >sions.org/forums/mess>age.htm >--0-415966843-1235587102=:98293 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > >You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doctors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am so tired at being looked at like a addict. >  >I feel we are like overweight people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losing weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  My friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she could not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other things.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control. >  >I feel like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions.  Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and probably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that that adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  There are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Finding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.  >  >I am going through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease. >  >Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk. >  >Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end. >Alta > >From: Cuddy <barkbark@cox.net>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AMSubject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked outI have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My painspecialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did notbelieve in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (theone that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop medown to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I wouldnot get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mindthat it takes a referral to >get into one of these clinics) My next visitis in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is anyother way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going tohappen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am<A href="mail >to:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:barkbark@cox.net">barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this isthe price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am moreafraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pleasesomeone send me an e-mail.At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.>>I've tried mind over matter, but >it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to>begin > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:42:29 -0800 (PST)=0AFrom: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.ne= >------------------------------ >org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, t>=0ATo: adhesions@adhesions.org=0ASubject: SSI/Disablity=0AMessage-ID: <89= >------------------------------ >org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 5817.50117.qm@web80003.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> >------------------------------ >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117" > >--0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hi, > >How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband>thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you h>ave applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help? >Just wondering >Alta  >--0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > >Hi, >  >How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering >Alta  >--0-20406073w.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ >=0ADate: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700=0AFrom: Lori OLSON <dumblnddzzy@ms= >------------------------------ >w.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >n.com>=0ATo: =0ASubject: RE: SSI/Disablity=0AMessa= >------------------------------ >w.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >ge-ID: >------------------------------ >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >------------------------------ >    boundary="_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_" >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_ >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hi there, hope you are doing well today.  I am on SSI & have been for abo>ut 7 year's now. I applied the first time by myself & was turned down. Then>I reapplied a second time & was turned down then also. The third time I go>t me a lawyer that specializes in SSI & let him reapply for me, within 6 >months I had my SSI.  I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be able>to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori > >Lori Olson > >EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD >Join me > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600 >From: racostew@sbcglobal.net >To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net >Subject: SSI/Disablity > >Hi, > >How many of you are on or applied for disability?  My husband thinks I sho>uld but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, di>d you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering >Alta > >--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_ >Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >.hmmessage P >{ >margin:0px; >padding:0px >} >body.hmmessage >{ >font-size: 10pt; >font-family:Verdana >} > >Hi there, hope you are doing well t>oday. ; I am on SSI &; have been for about 7 year's now. I appli>ed the first time by myself &; was turned down. Then I reapplied a sec>ond time &; was turned down then also. The third time I got me a lawye>r that specializes in SSI &; let him reapply for me, within 6 months>I had my SSI. ; I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be abl== > >e to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori>Lori Olson ><TABLE style="BORDER-TOP: black 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-FA>MILY: 'Segoe UI',Tahoma,san-serif"> > ><A style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #0184cb; TEXT-DECORATION: none" >href="http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood>"><IMG style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDE>R-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" alt="i'm" src="http://>gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif"> EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD<>BR><SPAN style="PADDING-RIGHT: 24px; PADDING-LEFT: 24px; FONT-SIZE: 8== > >pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; COLOR: #3fb555; PADDING-TOP: 0px== >3B TEXT-DEC>ORATION: underline">Join me >; > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600From: racostew@sbcglobal.net>To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: SSI/Disablity > >.ExternalClass DIV >{;} > ><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, n>ew york, times, serif"> >Hi, > ; >How many of you are on or applied for disability? ; ; My h>usband thinks I should but I ;have a feeling I would be turned down.&>nbsp; If you have applied, did you do it on your own? ; ;Di>d you have a lawyer help? ; Just wondering >Alta ; >> >--_2d896152-3a28-42d9dhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27 -0800 (PST)=0AFrom: Alta Costew <racostew@sbc= >------------------------------ >dhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Daglobal.net>=0ATo: adhesions@adhesions.org=0ASubject: Re: Let's talk about s= >------------------------------ >dhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >Daymptoms! >------------------------------ >Message-ID: <87945.18277.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-802279966-1235588547=:18277" > >--0-802279966-1235588547=:18277 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had bu>t the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >> >________________________________ From: Donna Johansen <donnajoha= nsen@telus.net> To: Multiple >me problem. >________________________________ From: Donna Johansen <donnajoha= nsen@telus.net> To: Multiple > >> >________________________________recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail>.obgyn.net> >________________________________recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM >Subject: RE: Let>'s talk about symptoms! > >Ann-Marie, >OK, you are the first person h>ere who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with si>tting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not >found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better >but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so >that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after ev>ery surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me >when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do yo>u feel that pain now? >Donna J > >________________________________ >= >________________________________ >From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of== > >Donna J > >________________________________ >= >________________________________ >From: >annmarie bluett >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM >To: Multiple>recipients of list ADHESIONS >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >> >I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY>SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK>recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post op>p 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergen>cy situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and >now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God? > HELL no"! >It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to g>o and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. >>My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to t>he point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was viol>ent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdom>en which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and sto>od too long.  Sex was and is very painful. >Now I know that my doc went >in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that >because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as == > >everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my append>ix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was f>rightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and whe>n I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. >All I know >is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises>what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful>for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative> is not acceptable. >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning >somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day >Loads of hug>s Ann-Marie          > >--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Mu>rray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote: > >From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.>com> >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients o>f list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> >Date: Saturday, 21 February,>2009, 4:22 AM >

>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a l>ife or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage>and it seems like someone else that was famous did. >Some times I think m>aybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends u>p passing. >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I real >>ize they don't s>it higher then we do.

>>----- Original Message ----- >From: BBLDEB@aol.co>m >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Friday, February 20>, 2009 8:07 PM >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >Kelly, >  >  I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or m>ore before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I== > >have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 o>r more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a te>aspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my >surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement befor>e you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever ans>wered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal sur>geries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again>is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I hav>e no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable >in medical /prescription areas. >    It is unbelievable what some >doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out o>r can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if >they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to dea>l with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a mo>ment, sorry). >    The worst part is they know about my blockages,>but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation bef>ore he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain>is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the on== > >ly relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have>4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). >== >A0   Goo>d luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. >  >Sincerely>, >Debbie > >________________________________ >Need a job? Find an empl= >________________________________ >oyment agency near you.  --0-802279966-1235588547=:18277 Content-Type: text/html; charset>_________________ >Need a job? Find an empl= >_________________ >oyment agency near you.=us-ascii > >I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >From: Donna Johansen <donnajohansen@telus.net>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PMSubject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms! >Ann-Marie, >OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now? >Donna J > >From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluettSent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONSSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"! >It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. >My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful. >Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. >All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable. >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day >Loads of hugs >Ann-Marie         --- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote: >From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM > >I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did. >Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do. > ><DIV style

>>>="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- >From: <A title=mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com href="mail >to:BBLDEB@aol.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com">BBLDEB@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Kelly, >    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas. >    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry). >    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). >    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. >  >Sincerely, >Debbie > >Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. > >--0ttp://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:17:56 -0500 From: teatime47@aol.com >---------------------------To: adhesions@adhesions.org Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! Mes>ttp://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm >---------------------------To: adhesions@adhesions.org Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! Mes> >---------------------------To: adhesions@adhesions.org Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! Mes>---------------------------sage-ID: >MIME-Version: 1.0 >---------------------------sage-ID: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >---------------------------sage-ID: >boundary="--------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com" > >----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well. > >Terrie > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alta Costew >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >I have the same thing.? Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >From: Donna Johansen >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM >Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Ann-Marie, > >OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.? This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.? Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.? I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.??Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. ?Do you feel that pain now? > >Donna J > >From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >I cant belive what I am reading.? OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. > >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.? The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.? Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God???HELL no"! > >It?seems so different here in the UK - we dont have?to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. > >My symptoms?were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it?was violent and watery.? I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen?if? I?either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.? Sex was and is very painful. > >Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want?to do any more damage to my internal?organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.? He did?put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. > >All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.? I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative?is not acceptable. > >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day > >Loads of hugs > >Ann-Marie????????? > >--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray wrote: > >From: Kelly Murray >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" >Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM > >I know what you mean.? How do we know if it is a life or death situation.? Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did. > >Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. > >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.? I realize the >>y don't sit higher then we do. >

>>----- Original Message ----- > >From: BBLDEB@aol.com > >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS > >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM > >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Kelly, > >????I too have blockages.? Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.? Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.? And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.? And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.? My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"? To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.? They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the?only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.? Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!? And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas. > >????It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.? I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.? They cause them every time they do surgery!? (Venting for a moment, sorry). > >????The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.? Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.? When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.? I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). > >????Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. > >? > >Sincerely, > >Debbie > >Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. > >----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > >I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well. > >Terrie > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net> >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> >Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > > #AOLMsgPart_2_eb176fcf-8059-4cb7-ace3-62f9b507be9d DIV {margin:0px;} > >I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >From: Donna Johansen <donnajohansen@telus.net> >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM >Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Ann-Marie, > >OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now? > >Donna J > >From: <A href="mail >to:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. > >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"! > >It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. > >My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful. > >Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. > >All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable. > >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day > >Loads of hugs > >Ann-Marie          > >--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote: > >From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> >Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM > ><div id== >yiv1927649460> > >I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did. > >Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. > >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do. >

>>----- Original Message ----- > >From: BBLDEB@aol.com > >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS > >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM > >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Kelly, > >    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas. > >    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry). > >    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). > >    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. > >  > >Sincerely, > >Debbie > >Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. > > Looking for work? Get job alerts, employment information, career advice and job-seeking tools at AOL Find a Job. > >----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com-- > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------ >End of ADHESIONS Digest 938 >------------------------------ >***************************

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>Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hi Wendy! I'm having surgery on Tuesday, the 3rd of March by Dr. Eric Johnson @ Abbott Northwestern in Minneapolis. He is with Surgical Specialists of Minnesota. His number is 612.863.7770. He's a great doctor. I did a lot of research about him, talked to several other doctors for their opinion and met with him twice. All the feedback has been very positive. He's done many successful adhesions removal surgeries. He said he's done it successfully on 15 nurses @ Abbott alone. I asked him why so many nurses. He said that nurses are more prone to adhesions after having abdominal surgeries because of the lifting they do of patients, etc. I think the fact that these nurses chose him to do their surgeries also speaks to his capabilities since they work with many surgeons in their jobs @ Abbott. I > can't wait to have this done. I'll update everyone when I get home about the results. Take care, everyone!  Kris > >From: Adhesions Society <adhesions@adhesions.org>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:19:28 PMSubject: ADHESIONS digest 938                ADHESIONS Digest 938Topics covered in this issue include:  1) Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com  2) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out    by barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy)  3) Re: ADHESIONS digest 923    > by WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)  4) RE: Dr. Gerhart    by "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins" <jenniferw@bellarmine.edu>  5) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>  6) SSI/Disablity    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>  7) RE: SSI/Disablity    by Lori OLSON <dumblnddzzy@msn.com>  8) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!    by Alta Costew <<A > href="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.net>  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!    by teatime47@aol.com----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Wed, 2>o="mailto:teatime47@aol.com">teatime47@aol.com---------------5 Feb 2009 08:47:40 ESTFrom: WendyEbbe3@aol.comTo: adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)Message-ID: <d25.45ecd60d.36d6a5fc@aol.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > href="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.net>  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!    by teatime47@aol.com----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Wed, 2> boundary="-----------------------------1235569660"-------------------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitCaryn,I know exactly h= > href="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.net>  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!    by teatime47@aol.com----------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Wed, 2>---------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ow you feel and I honestly don't know how much  longer I can last.>---------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US- I have to try to hold out until I have an appointment with  the SSI Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows of a good  surgeon in MN please let me know.Wendy====== >---------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ow you feel and I honestly don't know how much  longer I can last.>===Original  Message========    Subj: Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)  Date: 2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _kkajark@aol.com_ (mailto:kkajark@aol.com)  To: <A href="mailto:_adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" >---------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ow you feel and I honestly don't know how much  longer I can last.> ymailto="mailto:_adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">_adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    The odd thing is I am going to have surgery for  the 10th time an am solooking forward to it because I to agree that a even a  little relief isbetter than non.At Mon, 23 Feb 2009,  carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:>>Yes!  Even short lived  relief is worth it to me.>>Caryn R>>>-----  Original Message ----->From: "Katie"  <katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com>>To: "Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS" <<A > href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>>Sent: Friday, February 6,  2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern>Subject: Surgery--Would you  do it again? (POLL)>>For those that have had surgery strictly for  removing the adhesions ...>would you do it again?>>Your  answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery>for  mine.  I'm just  curious.>>Thanks,>Katie>>tm>htmTo  remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto  the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htmp.s. for  the web forum version > see  http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! >(<A href=3D"http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x12012678= >

>84/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID" target=_blank>http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNOttp:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)-------------------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"><META content="MSHTML > 6.00.6000.16809" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: =Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=rol=e_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><DIV><STRONG>Caryn,</STRONG></DIV><DIV><STRONG>I know exactly how you feel and I honestly don't know how much longer I can last. I have to try to hold out until I have an appointment wit=h the SSI Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows of a go=od=20surgeon in MN please let me know.</STRONG></DIV><DIV><STRONG>Wendy</STRONG></DIV><BR><FONT face=Webdings color=#ff0000 size=2>========</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 s=ize=2>Original Message</FONT><FONT >84/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID" target=_blank>http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNOttp:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)-------------------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"><META content="MSHTML > face=Webdings color=#ff0000 size=2>=========</FONT> <TABLE style="BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0 1px solid; FON=T-SIZE: 10pt; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0 1px sol=id; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e0e0e0" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0>  <TBODY>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD vAlign=top width="10%">Subj:</TD>    <TD><B>Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)</B></TD></TR>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD vAlign=top width="10%">Date:</TD>    <TD>2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time</TD></TR>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD vAlign=top noWrap >84/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID" target=_blank>http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNOttp:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)-------------------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"><META content="MSHTML > width="10%">From:</TD>    <TD><A title=mailto:kkajark@aol.com       href="mailto:kkajark@aol.com">kkajark@aol.com</A></TD></TR>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD vAlign=top noWrap width="10%">To:</TD>    <TD><A title=mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net       href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net"><A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net"

>> ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net</A><=/TD></TR>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD bgColor=#d0d0d0 colSpan=2>Sent on:    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>The odd thing is I am going to have surgery fo=r the 10th time an am so<BR>looking forward to it because I to agree that a ev=en a little relief is<BR>better than non.<BR><BR>At Mon, 23 Feb 2009, carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:<BR>><BR>>Yes!  Even short lived relief is worth it to me.<BR>><BR>>Caryn R<BR>><BR>>>----- Original Message -----<BR>>From: "Katie" <<A > href="mailto:katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com">katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com><BR>>To: "Multiple recipients of list= ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><BR>>Sent: Friday, February 6,= 2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>>Subject: Surgery--Would=you do it again? (POLL)<BR>><BR>>For those that have had surgery strictly =for removing the adhesions ...<BR>>would you do it again?<BR>><BR>>Your= answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery<BR>>f=or mine.  I'm >ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm---------------- href="mailto:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:barkbark@cox.net">barkb>ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm----------------ark@cox.net (Cuddy)To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked outMessage-ID: <200902251752.n1PHqP728447@mail.obgyn.net>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My painspecialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did notbelieve in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (theone that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop medown to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I wouldnot get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  >ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm---------------- href="mailto:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:barkbark@cox.net">barkb> (Keep in mindthat it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visitis in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is anyother way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going tohappen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I ambarkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this isthe price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am moreafraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pleasesomeone send me an e-mail.At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, >ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm---------------- href="mailto:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:barkbark@cox.net">barkb> pain.>>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more>compassionate man. Everytime, he > starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to>begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we>work something out. So far, so good.>>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.>>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally>--Dr.CuddyTo remove yourself from the <A href== >"mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" > ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/fons.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CST)From: <A href="mailto:>ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------WendyEbbe3@aol.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:WendyEbbe3@aol.com">WendyEbbe3@aol.co= > ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/fons.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CST)From: <A href="mailto:>ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------m (Wendy)To: <A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto== > ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/fons.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CST)From: <A href="mailto:>"mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923Message-ID: <200902251753.n1PHrr930306@mail.obgyn.net>Kris,Who's > the surgeon in Minneapolis? I'm in MN and looking for a good  surgeon. I've already been to The Mayo clinic and the U of M and they were no  help at all.Wendy========Original  Message========    Subj: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923  Date: 2/22/2009 11:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _klmurray_61@msn.com_ (mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    I live in New Mexico and have been to MN to Mayo and also the University of  MN.  No help at either of > these places. It has been several years.Hey, by the way, I have a uncle named Ron Peterson that lives in  Minneapolis. (Prior Lake) 

>>>; He isn't a Dr. though.Kelly----- Original Message ----- From: _Kristine Lovaas_ (mailto:krisl1204@yahoo.com)  To: _Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:46  PMSubject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923Was his name Dr. Ron Peterson? I live in MN, had him as an OB/GYN. He did  surgery on me 5 years ago for a right side ovarian cyst. It ruptured before  the surgery was scheduled, and we had to move the date up. i never had any  pelvic pain until after that surgery, in spite of having an > appendectomy in  1973, 2 C-sections in 1977 and 1978, and ectopic pregnancy in 1986 and a  partial hysterectomy in 1991. i started having the awful pain and nausea that  all of us go through about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a colonoscopy 2 years ago  that took the doctor an hour and half to complete because of adhesions. i'd  never even heard of the the condition prior to that. i'll make the long  medical saga short. After so many tests to rule out everything else, i'm  having surgery on Tuesday, March 3rd in Minneapolis to have adhesions removed.  I've researched the surgeon and had conversations with several doctors who  allspeak to his success. I'm really hoping for good results. I've read so much  on this site and haven't responded before. Take care, everyone. i wish you all  pain tolerant days! KrisTo remove yourself from the <A > >R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05ellarmine.edu" ymailto="mailto:jenniferw@bellarmine.edu">jenniferw@bellar>R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05mine.edu>To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>Subject: RE: Dr. GerhartMessage-ID: <<A href="mailto:14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu" >R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05ellarmine.edu" ymailto="mailto:jenniferw@bellarmine.edu">jenniferw@bellar> ymailto="mailto:14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu">14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu>Content-class: urn:content-classes:messageMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/mixed;    boundary="----_=_NextPart_0;    charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableI had surgery with Dr. Gerhart about 1 1/2 ago.  Everything went =smoothly.  He cut adhesions between my liver and dueodenum(sp?) and took =biopsies of several spots on my diaprhagm and bowels.  He took pictures =of the surgery and spots all over my insides.  Turns out it was endo =everywhere.  Before surgery it kind of felt like I had a lapband =preventing me from eating >R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05ellarmine.edu" ymailto="mailto:jenniferw@bellarmine.edu">jenniferw@bellar> anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and =process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very =professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  =I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well.________________________________From: adhesions@adhesions.>______________________________From: on behalf of Marlene WheelerSent: Tue 2/24/2009 5:54 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONSSubject: RE: Dr. GerhartKim,I had surgery with Dr Gerhart about 2 1/2 years ago.  I highly recommend =him. He's a wonderful Doctor, and is very up on the new barriers etc. I =had a go around with surgeons here, on who tried to help me and made =things worse. Two others who wouldn't touch me. Meanwhile I was getting =sicker and sicker. I finally had enough and through this > anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and =process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very =professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  =I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well.________________________________From: adhesions@adhesions.> web site and a =lot or research I found Dr G. ( I wish I had found him about a year êrlier!!but??) Anyway by the time I got to him I was in pretty bad =shape. The bad part was I had bowel that had tried to atrophy because of =the docs here not doing anything, so I'll always have to watch what I êt. The good part is he was able to help. I'm doing a lot better. I ¾lieve he saved my life. (My right side was a total mess, almost lost =ureter/rt kidney because of the mess). I still keep in touch with him in Êse I every have to go back. As you know these things can come back. I =thank God everyday that I found him, otherwise I wouldn't be here to =enjoy my children, and actually have a life. Good Luck Marlene I also know a couple other people who have had surgery with him, with =good results. They don't go on this site. I don't want to give out =names. All I can say is if anyone can > help you, I'm sure he will.> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:29:16 -0600> From: kkajark@aol.com> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> Subject: Dr. Gerhart> > I would really like to hear from anyone who have had surgery with Dr.> Gerhart. I sent my records to him to review but this will be my 10th> surgery. As some of you have pointed out I should not go into surgery> lightly. I want to make the right decision. My previous Dr could not> do the surgery because of the density of the adhesions so I need a =very> good experienced doc who will not damage any of my organs. Thanks for> your input.> Kim> > > To remove yourself from the <A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" > name="winmail.dat"Content-Transfer-Encoding: > 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http://www.adhesions.org/fons.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:38:22 -0800 (PST)From: Alta Costew <<A hre>ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------f=3D"mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.ne= > ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/fons.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:38:22 -0800 (PST)From: Alta Costew <<A hre>ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------t">racostew@sbcglobal.net>To: adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked outMessage-ID:<<A href="mailto:573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com" > ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/fons.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:38:22 -0800 (PST)From: Alta Costew <<A hre> ymailto="mailto:573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com">573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-415966843-1235587102=:98293"--0-415966843-1235587102=:98293Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableYou are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in th== >e Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery =in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doc=tors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am =so tired at being looked at like a addict. > >I feel we are like overweig=ht people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losin=g weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  M=y friend went through this.  Testing showed she > had no problems but she c=ould not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out=of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other thi=ngs.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She =ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control. > >I fee=l like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions. =Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and p=robably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that th=at adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  T=here are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Fin=ding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.  > >I am g=oing through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get =out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors > for help but they=just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease. >>Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk=. > >Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end. >Alta > >> >________________________________ >From: Cuddy <barkbark@cox.ne= >________________________________ > >________________________________ >From: Cuddy <>= >________________________________ >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> >S=ent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM >Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sa=lly/pain meds worked out > >I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with t=he PID.  My pain >specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I o=riginally did not >believe in pain medication until > now.  I had the pain=specialist (the >one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percoc=et and drop me >down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a litt=le, I would >not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he canno=t keep >"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep=in mind >that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My ne=xt visit >is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there =is any >other way to deal with this, please let me know.== >A0 And, what is g=oing to >happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am= barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is>the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am mo=re >afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of > dying.  Plêse >someone send me an e-mail. > >At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wro=te: >> >>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was=too for a >>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had dec=ided to cut back >>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened wa=s pain, pain, pain. >> >>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worke=d yet. I wish there was some >>way you could ommunicate with your present =doctor that it doesn't have to be >>either this or that. I'm trying a comb=ination of opiates, including the patch >>and oxycontin, plus a few other =milder ones. The point is not to take more >>pills or medication. The poin=t is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >>the minimum quanitiy o=f medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >>If I'm feeling in=so so pain, I take a less potent > pill, If I feel like >>screaming I take =a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >>tremendous=ly. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. >> >>Is there any w=ay you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >>him. Mine g=ets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >>compassio=nate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >>begin=to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >>=work something out. So far, so good. >> >>Your doctor unfortunately sound=s a little childish, sorry, but you probably >>already think this. He shou=ldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >>he should be aware t=hat extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. >> >>We're not =in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to > live >>somew=hat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >>rêding the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your>>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it=, he >>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally >> >-- >Dr.Cuddy >> type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV>You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doctors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am so tired at being looked at like a addict.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I feel we are like overweight people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losing weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  My friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she could not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered > some tests out of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other things.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I feel like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions.  Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and probably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that that adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  There are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Finding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I am going through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get out of this funk > but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Please feel free to contact me at <A href="mailto:racostew@yahoo.com">racostew@yahoo.com</A> if you need to talk.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end.</DIV><DIV>Alta<BR></DIV><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif"><BR><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: lucida console, sans-serif"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><HR SIZE=1><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: > bold">From:</SPAN></B> Cuddy <barkbark@cox.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <<A href="mail >to:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out<BR></FONT><BR>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain<BR>specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not<BR>believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the<BR>one that understood I was in > pain)take me off the percocet and drop me<BR>down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would<BR>not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep<BR>"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind<BR>that it takes a referral toget into one of these clinics) My next visit<BR>is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any<BR>other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to<BR>happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am<BR><A href="mailto:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:barkbark@cox.net">barkbark@cox.net</A>).  I > feel as though politics are involved and this is<BR>the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more<BR>afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please<BR>someone send me an e-mail.<BR><BR>At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a<BR>>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back<BR>>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.<BR>><BR>>I've tried mind over matter, butit hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some<BR>>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be<BR>>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch<BR>>and oxycontin, plus a > few other milder ones. The point is not to take more<BR>>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with<BR>>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.<BR>>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like<BR>>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help<BR>>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.<BR>><BR>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending<BR>>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more<BR>>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to<BR>>beginto get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we<BR>>work something out. So far, so > good.<BR>><BR>>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably<BR>>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and<BR>>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.<BR>><BR>>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live<BR>>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm<BR>>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your<BR>>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he<BR>>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally<BR>><BR><BR>--<BR>Dr.Cuddy<BR><BR>To remove yourself from the <A href="mailto:<A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" > ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org</A> mailing list pleasego<BR>to the unsubscribe form at <A href="http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm" target=_blank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm<.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm" target=_blank><A href="http://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm" > ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org >Subject: SSI/DisablityMessage-ID: <895817.50117.qm@web80003.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117"--0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableHi, > >How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband=thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you h=ave applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help? =Just wondering >Alta --0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} > --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><DIV>Hi,</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering</DIV><DIV>Alta </DIV></div></body></html>--0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117--To remove yourself from the <A href== >"mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htmp.s. for the web forum > version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: Lori OLSON <<A href="mailto:dumblnddzzy@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:dum>--------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: blnddzzy@msn.com">dumblnddzzy@msn.com>To: <<A href=3D"mailto:= > version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: Lori OLSON <<A href="mailto:dumblnddzzy@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:dum>--------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org>Subject: RE: SSI/DisablityMessage-ID: <BLU131-W519F3C82560EA229335639A0AC0@phx.gbl>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;    boundary="_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_"MIME-Version: 1.0--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: > version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: Lori OLSON <<A href="mailto:dumblnddzzy@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:dum> quoted-printableHi there, hope you are doing well today.  I am on SSI & have been for abo=ut 7 year's now. I applied the first time by myself & was turned down. Then=I reapplied a second time & was turned down then also. The third time I go=t me a lawyer that specializes in SSI & let him reapply for me, within 6 =months I had my SSI.  I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be able=to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....LoriLori Olson EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600From: <A href="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto== >"mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.netTo: adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: > SSI/DisablityHi, How many of you are on or applied for disability?  My husband thinks I sho=uld but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, di=d you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wonderingAlta =--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<html><head><style>.hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px}body.hmmessage{font-size: 10pt;font-family:Verdana}</style></head><body class='hmmessage'><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=4>Hi there, hope you are doing well t=oday. ; I am on SSI &; have been for about 7 year's now. I applií the first time by myself &; was turned down. Then I reapplied a > sec=ond time &; was turned down then also. The third time I got me a lawye=r that specializes in SSI &; let him reapply for me, within 6 months=I had my SSI. ; I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be abl=e to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori</FONT><BR>=<BR><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Lori Olson</SPAN> <BR><BR><BR><BR><TABLE style="BORDER-TOP: black 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-FA=MILY: 'Segoe UI',Tahoma,san-serif"><TBODY><TR><TD><A style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #0184cb; TEXT-DECORATION: none" =href="http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood="><IMG style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: > none; BORDE=R-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" alt="i'm" src="http://=gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_charity.gif"> EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD<=BR><SPAN style="PADDING-RIGHT: 24px; PADDING-LEFT: 24px; FONT-SIZE: 8=pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; COLOR: #3fb555; PADDING-TOP: 0px; TEXT-DEC=ORATION: underline">Join me</SPAN></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR> =;<BR><HR id=stopSpelling>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600<BR>From: racostew@sbcglobal.net<BR>=To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net<BR>Subject: SSI/Disablity<BR><BR><STYLE>.ExternalClass DIV{;}</STYLE><DIV > style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma== >R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27t;To: adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!Message-ID: <87945.18277.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-802279966-1235588547=:18277"--0-802279966-1235588547=:18277Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=iso-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableI have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had bu=t the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >> >________________________________ >From: Donna Johansen <donnajoha=3D<A href=3D"mailto:nsen@telus.net" ymai= >________________________________ >m. > >> >________________________________ >Fromlto="mailto:nsen@telus.net">nsen@telus.net> >________________________________ >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail=.obgyn.net> >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM >Subject: RE: Let='s talk about symptoms! > >Ann-Marie, >OK, you are the first person h=ere who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with si=tting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not =found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better =but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so =that I have to > be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after ev=ery surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me =when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do yo=u feel that pain now? >Donna J > >________________________________ >=From: adhesions@adhesions.org<= >________________________________ >______________________ >=From: [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of=annmarie bluett >______________________ >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM >To: Multiple=recipients of list ADHESIONS >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >> >I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY=SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK=recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post op=p 1 week > now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergen=cy situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and =now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God? = HELL no"! >It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to g=o and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. >=My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to t=he point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was viol=ent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdom=en which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and sto=od too long.  Sex was and is very painful. >Now I know that my doc went =in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that ¾cause he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as =everything was > stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my append=ix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was f=rightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and whe=n I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.== >0AAll I know =is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises=what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful=for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative= is not acceptable. >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning =somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day >Loads of hug=s >Ann-Marie          > >--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Mu=rray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote: > From: Kelly Murray > <klmurray_61@msn.=com> >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients o=f list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> >Date: Saturday, 21 February, 09, 4:22 AM > >I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a l=ife or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage=and it seems like someone else that was famous did. >Some times I think m=aybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends u=p passing. >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't s=it higher then we do.=0

>>>A----- Original Message ----- >From: BBLDEB@aol.co=m >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Friday, February 20=, 2009 8:07 PM >Subject: Re: Let's talk about > symptoms! >Kelly, >  =  I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or m=ore before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I=have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 o=r more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a te=aspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my =surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement befor=e you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever ans=wered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal sur=geries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again=is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I hav=e no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable =in medical /prescription areas. >    It is > unbelievable what some =doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out o=r can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if =they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to dea=l with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a mo=ment, sorry). >    The worst part is they know about my blockages,=but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation bef=ore he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain=is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the on=ly relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have=4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). >    Goo=d luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. >  >Sincerely=, >Debbie > >________________________________ >Need a job? >________________________________ > Find an empl=oyment agency near you.  --0-802279966-1235588>ebbie > >________________________________ >Need a job? >________________________________ >547=:18277Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV>I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.<BR></DIV><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif"><BR><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"><FONT face=Tahoma size== >2><HR SIZE=1><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Donna Johansen <<A href="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net" > ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR></FONT><BR><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Ann-Marie,</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This > was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Donna J</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><HR tabIndex=-1><FONT face=Tahoma size== >2><B>From:</B> adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:<A > href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>annmarie bluett<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><DIV></DIV><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><DIV>I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.</DIV><DIV>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? > No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!</DIV><DIV>It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.</DIV><DIV>My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.</DIV><DIV>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask > if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.</DIV><DIV>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.</DIV><DIV>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day</DIV><DIV>Loads of hugs</DIV><DIV>Ann-Marie         <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <I><<A > href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Kelly Murray <<A href== >"mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com><BR>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <<A href="mail >to:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><BR>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM<BR><BR><DIV id=yiv1927649460><STYLE></STYLE><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #800080; FONT-FAMILY: Perpetua"><DIV>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee > brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.</DIV><DIV>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. </DIV><DIV>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><DIV style="FONT: 10pt ar

>>>ial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com"><A > href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com">BBLDEB@aol.com</A> </DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS</A> </DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM</DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's talk about symptoms!</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Perpetua color=#800080 > size=4><DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Kelly,</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 > weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of > pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4></FONT></STRONG> </DIV><DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Sincerely,</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Debbie</FONT></STRONG></DIV></FONT><BR><FONT style="FONT: 10pt arial,; COLOR: black"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">Need a job? <A title=<A > href="http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003" target=_blank>http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003 href== > boundary="--------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com"----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.comContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitContent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.Terrie-----Original Message-----From: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pmSubject: Re: Let's talk about > symptoms!I have the same thing.? Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.From: Donna Johansen <<A href== >"mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net" ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PMSubject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!Ann-Marie,OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.? This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.? Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping > pills.? I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.??Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. ?Do you feel that pain now?Donna JFrom: <A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mail >to:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluettSent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONSSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!I cant belive what I am reading.? OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.? The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an > emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.? Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God???HELL no"!It?seems so different here in the UK - we dont have?to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.My symptoms?were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it?was violent and watery.? I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen?if? I?either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.? Sex was and is very painful.Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want?to do any more damage to my internal?organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was > frightened he may damage it.? He did?put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.? I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative?is not acceptable.Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another dayLoads of hugsAnn-Marie?????????--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <<A > href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AMI know what you mean.? How do we know if it is a life or death situation.? Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.? I reali

>>>ze they don't sit higher then we do.----- Original Message ----- From: BBLDEB@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PMSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!Kelly,????I too have blockages.? Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a > bowel movement.? Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.? And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.? And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.? My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"? To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.? They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the?only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.? Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!? And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.????It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.? I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is > something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.? They cause them every time they do surgery!? (Venting for a moment, sorry).????The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.? Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.? When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.? I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).????Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.?Sincerely,DebbieNeed a job? Find an employment agency near you. ----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.comContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitContent-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"<EM><FONT face="Comic Sans MS, > sans-serif" color=mediumorchid size=3>I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.<br><br>Terrie</FONT></EM><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net><br>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><br>Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm<br>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<br><br><div > id=AOLMsgPart_2_eb176fcf-8059-4cb7-ace3-62f9b507be9d><STYLE type=text/css> #AOLMsgPart_2_eb176fcf-8059-4cb7-ace3-62f9b507be9d DIV {margin:0px;} </STYLE><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif"><div>I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.<br></div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif"><br><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><HR SIZE=1><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Donna Johansen <<A href="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net"><A > href="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net" ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net</A>><br><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <<A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net</A>><br><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM<br><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Let's talk about symptoms!<br></FONT><br><div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT > face=Arial>Ann-Marie,</FONT></SPAN></div><div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?</FONT></SPAN></div><div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Donna > J</FONT></SPAN></div><br><div class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><HR><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org</A> [<A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org?">mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>annmarie bluett<br><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM<br><B> >To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS<br><B>Subject:</B> Re: > Let's talk about symptoms!<br></FONT><br></div><div></div><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><div>I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.</div><div>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!</div><div>It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is > performed.</div><div>My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.</div><div>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has > worked.</div><div>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.</div><div>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day</div><div>Loads of hugs</div><div>Ann-Marie         <br><br>--- On <B>Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <I><<A href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com"><A href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com" > ymailto="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<br></div><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Kelly Murray <<A href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com</A>><br>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<br>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <<A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net</A>><br>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 > AM<br><br><div id=yiv1927649460><div style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #800080; FONT-FAMILY: Perpetua"><div>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.</div><div>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. </div><div>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.</div><BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><div style="FONT:

>>> 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div><div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=mail >to:<A > href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com">BBLDEB@aol.com href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" rel=nofollow>BBLDEB@aol.com</A> </div><div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net href="mailto:<A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mail >to:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" rel=nofollow>Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS</A> </div><div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM</div><div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's talk about > symptoms!</div><div><br></div><FONT id=role_document face=Perpetua color=#800080 size=4><div><STRONG><FONT size=4>Kelly,</FONT></STRONG></div><div>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 > abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.</FONT></STRONG></div><div>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).</FONT></STRONG></div><div>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>The worst part is they know about my > blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).</FONT></STRONG></div><div>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.</FONT></STRONG></div><div><STRONG><FONT size=4></FONT></STRONG> </div><div><STRONG><FONT size=4>Sincerely,</FONT></STRONG></div><div><STRONG><FONT > size=4>Debbie</FONT></STRONG></div></FONT><br><FONT style="FONT: 10pt arial,; COLOR: black"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">Need a job? <A title=<A href== >"http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003" target=_blank>http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003 href="http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Find an employment agency near you</A>.</FONT> <div></div></BLOCKQUOTE></div></div></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></div></div></div></div><!-- end of >//http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm---------------------------0-1964753945-1235603016=:90539--

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