Re: ADHESIONS digest 938

From: Kristine Lovaas (krisl1204@yahoo.com)
Wed Feb 25 16:03:53 2009


Hi Wendy! I'm having surgery on Tuesday, the 3rd of March by Dr. Eric Johnson @ Abbott Northwestern in Minneapolis. He is with Surgical Specialists of Minnesota. His number is 612.863.7770. He's a great doctor. I did a lot of research about him, talked to several other doctors for their opinion and met with him twice. All the feedback has been very positive. He's done many successful adhesions removal surgeries. He said he's done it successfully on 15 nurses @ Abbott alone. I asked him why so many nurses. He said that nurses are more prone to adhesions after having abdominal surgeries because of the lifting they do of patients, etc. I think the fact that these nurses chose him to do their surgeries also speaks to his capabilities since they work with many surgeons in their jobs @ Abbott. I can't wait to have this done. I'll update everyone when I get home about the results. Take care, everyone!  Kris

________________________________ From: Adhesions Society <adhesions@adhesions.org>=0ATo: Multiple recipients of list A= eryone!  Kris

________________________________ From: AdheDHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:19:28 PM Subject: ADHESIONS digest 938

                ADHESIONS Digest 938

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)     by WendyEbbe3@aol.com   2) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out     by barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy)   3) Re: ADHESIONS digest 923     by WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)   4) RE: Dr. Gerhart     by "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins" <jenniferw@bellarmine.edu>   5) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out     by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>   6) SSI/Disablity     by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>   7) RE: SSI/Disablity     by Lori OLSON <dumblnddzzy@msn.com>   8) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!     by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>   9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!     by teatime47@aol.com

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-------------------------------1235't know how much  longer I can last. I have to try to hold out until I have an appointment with  the SSI Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows of a good  surgeon in MN please let me know. Wendy

========Original  Message======= ==    Subj: Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)  Date: 2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _kkajark@aol.com_ (mailto:kkajark@aol.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    The odd thing is I am going to have surgery for  the 10th time an am so looking forward to it because I to agree that a even a  little relief is better than non.

At Mon, 23 Feb 2009,  carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote: >
>Yes!  Even short lived  relief is worth it to me.
>
>Caryn R
>
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>From: "Katie"  <katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Friday, February 6,  2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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Subject: Surgery--Would you  do it again? (POLL) >
>For those that have had surgery strictly for  removing the adhesions ...
>would you do it again?
>
>Your  answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery
>for  mine.  I'm just  curious.
>
>Thanks,
>Katie
>
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Caryn,
I know exactly how you feel and I honestly don't know how much longer I can last. I have to try to hold out until I have an appointment wit= h the SSI Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows of a go= od surgeon in MN please let me know.
Wendy

========Original Message===== ====         Subj:     Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)       Date:     2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time       From:     kkajark@aol.com       To:     adhesions@mail.obgyn.net<= /TD>       Sent on:   =20
The odd thing is I am going to have surgery fo= r the 10th time an am so
looking forward to it because I to agree that a ev= en a little relief is
better than non.

At Mon, 23 Feb 2009, carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:
>
>Yes!  Even short lived relief is worth it to me.
>
>Caryn R
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Katie" <katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list= ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Friday, February 6,= 2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>Subject: Surgery--Would= you do it again? (POLL)
>
>For those that have had surgery strictly = for removing the adhesions ...
>would you do it again?
>
>Your= answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery
>f= or mine.  I'm just curious.
>
>Thanks,
>Katie
>
>tm
>htm

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-------------------------------1235569660-- To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go=0Ato the unsubsc= > -------------------------------1235569660-- To remove yourseribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm=0Ap.s. for the we= > -------------------------------1235569660-- To remove yourseb forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST)=0AFrom: barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy)=0ATo: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net=0ASubject:= ------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out=0AMessage-ID: <200902251752.n1P= ------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST)HqP728447@mail.obgyn.net> I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop me down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep "giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visit is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please someone send me an e-mail. At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote: > >Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a >little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back >on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain. > >I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some >way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be >either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch >and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more >pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like >screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. > >Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >work something out. So far, so good. > >Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably >already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. > >We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live >somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your >good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he >would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally > -- Dr.Cuddyessage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CST)=0AFrom: WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)=0ATo: adhesions@= essage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 20mail.obgyn.net=0ASubject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923=0AMessage-ID: <200902251= essage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 20753.n1PHrr930306@mail.obgyn.net> Kris, Who's the surgeon in Minneapolis? I'm in MN and looking for a good  surgeon. I've already been to The Mayo clinic and the U of M and they were no  help at all. Wendy ========Original  Message======== =    Subj: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923  Date: 2/22/2009 11:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _klmurray_61@msn.com_ (mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    I live in New Mexico and have been to MN to Mayo and also the University of  MN.  No help at either of these places. It has been several years. Hey, by the way, I have a uncle named Ron Peterson that lives in  Minneapolis. (Prior Lake)  He isn't a Dr >. though. Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: _Kristine Lovaas_ (mailto:krisl1204@yahoo.com)  To: _Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:46  PM Subject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923 Was his name Dr. Ron Peterson? I live in MN, had him as an OB/GYN. He did  surgery on me 5 years ago for a right side ovarian cyst. It ruptured before  the surgery was scheduled, and we had to move the date up. i never had any  pelvic pain until after that surgery, in spite of having an appendectomy in  1973, 2 C-sections in 1977 and 1978, and ectopic pregnancy in 1986 and a  partial hysterectomy in 1991. i started having the awful pain and nausea that  all of us go through about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a colonoscopy 2 years ago  that took the doctor an hour and half to complete because of adhesions. i'd  never even heard of the the condition prior to that. i'll make the long  medical saga short. After so many tests to rule out everything else, i'm  having surgery on Tuesday, March 3rd in Minneapolis to have adhesions removed.  I've researched the surgeon and had conversations with several doctors who  allspeak to his success. I'm really hoping for good results. I've read so much  on this site and haven't responded before. Take care, everyone. i wish you all  pain tolerant days! Kris To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go to the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm p.s. for the web forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ------------------nnifer B. Blevins" =0ATo: =0ASubject: RE: Dr. Gerhart=0AMessage-ID: <14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871= ion see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ------------------E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu> Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;     boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C99772.DE993372" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C99772.DE993372 Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had surgery with Dr. Gerhart about 1 1/2 ago.  Everything went = smoothly.  He cut adhesions between my liver and dueodenum(sp?) and took = biopsies of several spots on my diaprhagm and bowels.  He took pictures = of the surgery and spots all over my insides.  Turns out it was endo = everywhere.  Before surgery it kind of felt like I had a lapband = preventing me from eating anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and = process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very = professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  = I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well. ________________________________=0A=0AFrom: adhesions@adhesions.org on behalf of Marlene Wheeler=0ASent: Tu= him and he took my insurance as well. ________________________________e 2/24/2009 5:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: RE: Dr. Gerhart Kim, I had surgery with Dr Gerhart about 2 1/2 years ago.  I highly recommend = him. He's a wonderful Doctor, and is very up on the new barriers etc. I = had a go around with surgeons here, on who tried to help me and made = things worse. Two others who wouldn't touch me. Meanwhile I was getting = sicker and sicker. I finally had enough and through this web site and a = lot or research I found Dr G. ( I wish I had found him about a year = earlier!!but??) Anyway by the time I got to him I was in pretty bad = shape. The bad part was I had bowel that had tried to atrophy because of = the docs here not doing anything, so I'll always have to watch what I = eat. The good part is he was able to help. I'm doing a lot better. I = believe he saved my life. (My right side was a total mess, almost lost = ureter/rt kidney because of the mess). I still keep in touch with him in = case I every have to go back. As you know these things can come back. I = thank God everyday that I found him, otherwise I wouldn't be here to = enjoy my children, and actually have a life. Good Luck Marlene I also know a couple other people who have had surgery with him, with = good results. They don't go on this site. I don't want to give out = names. All I can say is if anyone can help you, I'm sure he will. > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:29:16 -0600 > From: kkajark@aol.com > To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net > Subject: Dr. Gerhart > > I would really like to hear from anyone who have had surgery with Dr. > Gerhart. I sent my records to him to review but this will be my 10th > surgery. As some of you have pointed out I should not go into surgery > lightly. I want to make the right decision. My previous Dr could not > do the surgery because of the density of the adhesions so I need a = very > good experienced doc who will not damage any of my organs. Thanks for > your input. > Kim > http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ____________________ws Live. 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meds worked out=0AMessage-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:38:22 -ID: <573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-415966843-1235587102=:98293" --0-415966843-1235587102=:98293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in th== e Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery = in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doc= tors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am = so tired at being looked at like a addict. I feel we are like overweig= ht people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losin= g weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  M= y friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she c= ould not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out= of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other thi== ngs.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She = ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control. I fee= l like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions. = Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and p= robably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that th= at adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  T= here are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Fin= ding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.  I am g== oing through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get = out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they= just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease. = Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk= . Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end. Alta = ________________________________ From: Cuddy = To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS =3D0AS=3D= __________________________ From: Cuddy = To: ent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sa= lly/pain meds worked out I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with t= he PID.  My pain specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I o= riginally did not believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain= specialist (the one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percoc= et and drop me down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a litt= le, I would not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he canno= t keep "giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep= in mind that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My ne= xt visit is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there = is any other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is g= oing to happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am= barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is= the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am mo= re afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pl= ease someone send me an e-mail. At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wro== te: > >Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was= too for a >little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had dec= ided to cut back >on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened wa= s pain, pain, pain. > >I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worke= d yet. I wish there was some >way you could ommunicate with your present = doctor that it doesn't have to be >either this or that. I'm trying a comb= ination of opiates, including the patch >and oxycontin, plus a few other = milder ones. The point is not to take more >pills or medication. The poin= t is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >the minimum quanitiy o== f medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >If I'm feeling in= so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like >screaming I take = a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >tremendous= ly. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. > >Is there any w= ay you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >him. Mine g= ets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >compassio= nate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >begin= to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >= work something out. So far, so good. > >Your doctor unfortunately sound== s a little childish, sorry, but you probably >already think this. He shou= ldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >he should be aware t= hat extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. > >We're not = in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live >somew= hat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >r= eading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your= >good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it= , he >would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally > -- Dr.Cuddy == sions.org/forums/mess= age.htm --0-415966843-1235587102=:98293 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doctors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am so tired at being looked at like a addict.
 
I feel we are like overweight people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losing weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  My friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she could not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other things.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control.
 
I feel like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions.  Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and probably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that that adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  There are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Finding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack. 
 
I am going through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease.
 
Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk.
 
Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end.
Alta


From: Cuddy <barkbark@cox.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM
Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out

I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain
specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not
believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the
one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop me
down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would
not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep
"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind
that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visit
is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any
other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to
happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am
barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is
the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more
afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please
someone send me an e-mail.

At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:
>
>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a
>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back
>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.
>
>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some
>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be
>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch
>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more
>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with
>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.
>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like
>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help
>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.
>
>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending
>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more
>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to
>begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we
>work something out. So far, so good.
>
>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably
>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and
>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.
>
>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live
>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm
>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your
>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he
>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally
>

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Dr.Cuddy

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--0-415966843-123558710org/forums/message.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:42:29 -0800 (PST)=0AFrom: Alta Costew =0ATo: adhesions@adhesions.org=0ASubject: SSI/Disablity=0AMessage-ID: <89= org/forums/message.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5817.50117.qm@web80003.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117" --0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband= thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you h= ave applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help? = Just wondering Alta  --0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi,
 
How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering
Alta 
--0-20406073w.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ------------------------------ =0ADate: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700=0AFrom: Lori OLSON =0ATo: =0ASubject: RE: SSI/Disablity=0AMessa= w.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ------------------------------ ge-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative;     boundary="_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, hope you are doing well today.  I am on SSI & have been for abo= ut 7 year's now. I applied the first time by myself & was turned down. Then= I reapplied a second time & was turned down then also. The third time I go= t me a lawyer that specializes in SSI & let him reapply for me, within 6 = months I had my SSI.  I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be able= to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori Lori Olson EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600 From: racostew@sbcglobal.net To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net Subject: SSI/Disablity Hi, How many of you are on or applied for disability?  My husband thinks I sho= uld but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, di= d you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering Alta = --_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there=2C hope you are doing well t= oday. ; I am on SSI &; have been for about 7 year's now. I appli= ed the first time by myself &; was turned down. Then I reapplied a sec= ond time &; was turned down then also. The third time I got me a lawye= r that specializes in SSI &; let him reapply for me, within 6 months= I had my SSI. ; I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be abl== e to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori
=
Lori Olson



EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD<= BR>Join me

 = ;

Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600
From: racostew@sbcglobal.net
= To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
Subject: SSI/Disablity

Hi,
 ;
How many of you are on or applied for disability? ; ; My h= usband thinks I should but I ;have a feeling I would be turned down.&= nbsp; If you have applied, did you do it on your own? ; ;Di= d you have a lawyer help? ; Just wondering
Alta ;
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I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had bu= t the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.

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________________________________=3D0AFrom: Donna Johansen <donnajoha=3D=0Ansen@telus.net>=3D0ATo: Multiple = me problem.

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________________________________recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail= .obgyn.net> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM Subject: RE: Let= 's talk about symptoms!

Ann-Marie, OK, you are the first person h= ere who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with si= tting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not = found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better = but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so = that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after ev= ery surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me = when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do yo= u feel that pain now? Donna J

________________________________ = From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of=3D=

Donna J

________________________________ = From: annmarie bluett Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM To: Multiple= recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! =

I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY= SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK= recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post op= p 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergen= cy situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and = now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God? =  HELL no"! It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to g= o and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. = My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to t= he point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was viol= ent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdom= en which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and sto= od too long.  Sex was and is very painful. Now I know that my doc went = in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that = because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as ==

everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my append= ix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was f= rightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and whe= n I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. All I know = is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises= what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful= for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative=  is not acceptable. Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning = somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day Loads of hug= s=0AAnn-Marie         

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Mu= rray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:

From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.= com> Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! To: "Multiple recipients o= f list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> Date: Saturday, 21 February,= 2009, 4:22 AM =0A I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a l= ife or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage= and it seems like someone else that was famous did. Some times I think m= aybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends u= p passing. I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I real >ize they don't s=
it higher then we do. ----- Original Message ----- From: BBLDEB@aol.co= m To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Friday, February 20= , 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! Kelly,   =   I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or m= ore before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I==

have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 o= r more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a te= aspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.=A0 My question to my = surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement befor= e you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever ans= wered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal sur= geries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again= is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I hav= e no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable = in medical /prescription areas.     It is unbelievable what some = doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out o= r can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if = they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to dea= l with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a mo= ment, sorry).     The worst part is they know about my blockages,= but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation bef= ore he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain= is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the on==

ly relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have= 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). == A0   Goo= d luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.   Sincerely= , Debbie

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I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.


From: Donna Johansen <donnajohansen@telus.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!

Ann-Marie,
OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?
Donna J


From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!

I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!
It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.
My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.
Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.
All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.
Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
Loads of hugs
Ann-Marie         

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:
From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM

I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing.
I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.
="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!

Kelly,
    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.
    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).
    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
 
Sincerely,
Debbie


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--0ttp://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ------------------------------=0A=0ADate: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:17:56 -0500=0AFrom: teatime47@aol.com=0A= ttp://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ---------------------------To: adhesions@adhesions.org=0ASubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!=0AMes= ttp://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ---------------------------sage-ID: <8CB659D48015F6A-258-15FD@WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com" ----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well. Terrie -----Original Message----- From: Alta Costew To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! I have the same thing.? Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. From: Donna Johansen To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms! Ann-Marie, OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.? This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.? Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.? I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.??Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. ?Do you feel that pain now? Donna J From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! I cant belive what I am reading.? OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.? The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.? Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God???HELL no"! It?seems so different here in the UK - we dont have?to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. My symptoms?were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it?was violent and watery.? I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen?if? I?either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.? Sex was and is very painful. Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want?to do any more damage to my internal?organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.? He did?put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.? I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative?is not acceptable. Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day Loads of hugs Ann-Marie????????? --- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray wrote: From: Kelly Murray Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM I know what you mean.? How do we know if it is a life or death situation.? Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did. Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.? I realize the >y don't sit higher then we do. ----- Original Message ----- From: BBLDEB@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! Kelly, ????I too have blockages.? Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.? Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.? And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.? And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.? My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"? To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.? They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the?only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.? Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!? And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas. ????It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.? I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.? They cause them every time they do surgery!? (Venting for a moment, sorry). ????The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.? Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.? When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.? I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). ????Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. ? Sincerely, Debbie Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. ----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.

Terrie



-----Original Message-----
From: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!

I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.


From: Donna Johansen <donnajohansen@telus.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!

Ann-Marie,
OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?
Donna J


From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!

I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!
It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.
My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.
Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.
All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.
Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
Loads of hugs
Ann-Marie         

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:
From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM

I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing.
I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.
>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!

Kelly,
    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.
    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).
    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
 
Sincerely,
Debbie


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Hi Wendy! I'm having surgery on Tuesday, the 3rd of March by Dr. Eric Johnson @ Abbott Northwestern in Minneapolis. He is with Surgical Specialists of Minnesota. His number is 612.863.7770. He's a great doctor. I did a lot of research about him, talked to several other doctors for their opinion and met with him twice. All the feedback has been very positive. He's done many successful adhesions removal surgeries. He said he's done it successfully on 15 nurses @ Abbott alone. I asked him why so many nurses. He said that nurses are more prone to adhesions after having abdominal surgeries because of the lifting they do of patients, etc. I think the fact that these nurses chose him to do their surgeries also speaks to his capabilities since they work with many surgeons in their jobs @ Abbott. I can't wait to have this done. I'll update everyone when I get home about the results. Take care, everyone!  Kris


From: Adhesions Society <adhesions@adhesions.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:19:28 PM
Subject: ADHESIONS digest 938

                ADHESIONS Digest 938

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)
    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com
  2) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out
    by barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy)
  3) Re: ADHESIONS digest 923
    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)
  4) RE: Dr. Gerhart
    by "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins" <jenniferw@bellarmine.edu>
  5) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out
    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>
  6) SSI/Disablity
    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>
  7) RE: SSI/Disablity
    by Lori OLSON <dumblnddzzy@msn.com>
  8) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>
  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
    by teatime47@aol.com

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From: WendyEbbe3@aol.com
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Subject: Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)
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Caryn,
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Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows of a good  surgeon in
MN please let me know.
Wendy

====== ===Original  Message========    Subj: Re: Surgery--Would you do it
again? (POLL)  Date: 2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time  From:
_kkajark@aol.com_ (mailto:kkajark@aol.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_
(mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:   
The odd thing is I am going to have surgery for  the 10th time an am so
looking forward to it because I to agree that a even a  little relief is
better than non.

At Mon, 23 Feb 2009,  carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:
>
>Yes!  Even short lived  relief is worth it to me.
>
>Caryn R
>
>>-----  Original Message -----
>From: "Katie"  <katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Friday, February 6,  2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>Subject: Surgery--Would you  do it again? (POLL)
>
>For those that have had surgery strictly for  removing the adhesions ...
>would you do it again?
>
>Your  answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery
>for  mine.  I'm just  curious.
>
>Thanks,
>Katie
>
>tm
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>The odd thing is I am going to have surgery fo=
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little relief is<BR>better than non.<BR><BR>At Mon, 23 Feb 2009,
carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Yes!&nbsp; Even short lived
relief is worth it to me.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Caryn R<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;-----
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for
removing the adhesions ...<BR>&gt;would you do it again?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Your=

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Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out
Message-ID: <200902251752.n1PHqP728447@mail.obgyn.net>

I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain
specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not
believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the
one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop me
down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would
not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep
"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind
that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visit
is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any
other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to
happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am
barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is
the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more
afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please
someone send me an e-mail.

At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:
>
>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a
>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back
>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.
>
>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some
>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be
>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch
>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more
>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with
>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.
>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like
>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help
>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.
>
>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending
>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more
>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to
>begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we
>work something out. So far, so good.
>
>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably
>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and
>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.
>
>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live
>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm
>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your
>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he
>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally
>

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Kris,

Who's the surgeon in Minneapolis? I'm in MN and looking for a good  surgeon.
I've already been to The Mayo clinic and the U of M and they were no  help at
all.

Wendy

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2/22/2009 11:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _klmurray_61@msn.com_
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(mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:   

I live in New Mexico and have been to MN to Mayo and also the University of 
MN.  No help at either of these places. It has been several years.
Hey, by the way, I have a uncle named Ron Peterson that lives in 
Minneapolis. (Prior Lake)  >; He isn't a Dr. though.
Kelly

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To: _Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS_
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Was his name Dr. Ron Peterson? I live in MN, had him as an OB/GYN. He did 
surgery on me 5 years ago for a right side ovarian cyst. It ruptured before  the
surgery was scheduled, and we had to move the date up. i never had any 
pelvic pain until after that surgery, in spite of having an appendectomy in  1973,
2 C-sections in 1977 and 1978, and ectopic pregnancy in 1986 and a  partial
hysterectomy in 1991. i started having the awful pain and nausea that  all of us
go through about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a colonoscopy 2 years ago  that took
the doctor an hour and half to complete because of adhesions. i'd  never even
heard of the the condition prior to that. i'll make the long  medical saga
short. After so many tests to rule out everything else, i'm  having surgery on
Tuesday, March 3rd in Minneapolis to have adhesions removed.  I've researched
the surgeon and had conversations with several doctors who  allspeak to his
success. I'm really hoping for good results. I've read so much  on this site and
haven't responded before. Take care, everyone. i wish you all  pain tolerant
days! Kris

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I had surgery with Dr. Gerhart about 1 1/2 ago.  Everything went =
smoothly.  He cut adhesions between my liver and dueodenum(sp?) and took =
biopsies of several spots on my diaprhagm and bowels.  He took pictures =
of the surgery and spots all over my insides.  Turns out it was endo =
everywhere.  Before surgery it kind of felt like I had a lapband =
preventing me from eating anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and =
process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very =
professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  =
I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well.

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From:
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> Subject: Dr. Gerhart
>
> I would really like to hear from anyone who have had surgery with Dr.
> Gerhart. I sent my records to him to review but this will be my 10th
> surgery. As some of you have pointed out I should not go into surgery
> lightly. I want to make the right decision. My previous Dr could not
> do the surgery because of the density of the adhesions so I need a =
very
> good experienced doc who will not damage any of my organs. Thanks for
> your input.
> Kim
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You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in th==
e Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery =
in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doc=
tors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am =
so tired at being looked at like a addict. I feel we are like overweig=
ht people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losin=
g weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  M=
y friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she c=
ould not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out=
of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other thi=
ngs.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She =
ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control. I fee=
l like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions.=A0=
Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and p=
robably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that th=
at adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  T=
here are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Fin=
ding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.  I am g=
oing through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get =
out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they=
just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease. =
Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk=
. Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end. Alta =
________________________________ From: Cuddy <barkbark@cox.ne= ________________________________ From: Cuddy <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> S=
ent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sa=
lly/pain meds worked out I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with t=
he PID.  My pain specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I o=
riginally did not believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain=
specialist (the one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percoc=
et and drop me down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a litt=
le, I would not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he canno=
t keep "giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep=
in mind that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My ne=
xt visit is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there =
is any other way to deal with this, please let me know.== A0 And, what is g=
oing to happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am=
=0Abarkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is=
the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am mo=
re afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pl=
ease someone send me an e-mail. At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wro=
te: > >Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was=
too for a >little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had dec=
ided to cut back >on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened wa=
s pain, pain, pain. > >I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worke=
d yet. I wish there was some >way you could ommunicate with your present =
doctor that it doesn't have to be >either this or that. I'm trying a comb=
ination of opiates, including the patch >and oxycontin, plus a few other =
milder ones. The point is not to take more >pills or medication. The poin=
t is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >the minimum quanitiy o=
f medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >If I'm feeling in=
so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like >screaming I take =
a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >tremendous=
ly. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. > >Is there any w=
ay you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >him. Mine g=
ets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >compassio=
nate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >begin=
to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >=
work something out. So far, so good. > >Your doctor unfortunately sound=
s a little childish, sorry, but you probably >already think this. He shou=
ldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >he should be aware t=
hat extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. > >We're not =
in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live >somew=
hat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >r=
eading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your=
>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it=
, he >would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally > -- Dr.Cuddy =
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go to the unsubscribe form at <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I feel we are like overweight people.&nbsp; The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losing weight.&nbsp; Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.&nbsp; My friend went through this.&nbsp; Testing showed she had no problems but she could not lose weight.&nbsp; She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other things.&nbsp; Once a doctor went&nbsp;outside the norm a solution was found.&nbsp; She ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I feel like we have a cancer attacking us.&nbsp; The cancer being our adhesions.&nbsp; Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and probably not many being educated in adhesions.&nbsp; Doctors are taught that that adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.&nbsp; There are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.&nbsp; Finding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I am going through a HUGE depression right now.&nbsp; I am trying everything to get out of this funk but can't.&nbsp; I have gone to two doctors for help but they just don't seem to understand.&nbsp; Adhesions are a multifacited disease.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Please feel free to contact me at <A href="mailto:
racostew@yahoo.com">racostew@yahoo.com</A> if you need to talk.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sorry for the rant all.&nbsp; I am getting at my wits end.</DIV>
<DIV>Alta<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Cuddy &lt;barkbark@cox.net&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS &lt;adhesions@mail.obgyn.net&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out<BR></FONT><BR>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.&nbsp; My pain<BR>specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not<BR>believe in pain medication until now.&nbsp; I had the pain specialist (the<BR>one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop me<BR>down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would<BR>not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep<BR>"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.&nbsp; (Keep in mind<BR>that it takes a referral to
get into one of these clinics) My next visit<BR>is in March.&nbsp; The reason why I am writing is because if there is any<BR>other way to deal with this, please let me know.&nbsp; And, what is going to<BR>happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am<BR><A href="mailto:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:barkbark@cox.net">barkbark@cox.net</A>).&nbsp; I feel as though politics are involved and this is<BR>the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.&nbsp; I am more<BR>afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.&nbsp; Please<BR>someone send me an e-mail.<BR><BR>At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a<BR>&gt;little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back<BR>&gt;on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I've tried mind over matter, but
it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some<BR>&gt;way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be<BR>&gt;either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch<BR>&gt;and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more<BR>&gt;pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with<BR>&gt;the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.<BR>&gt;If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like<BR>&gt;screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help<BR>&gt;tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending<BR>&gt;him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more<BR>&gt;compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to<BR>&gt;begin
to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we<BR>&gt;work something out. So far, so good.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably<BR>&gt;already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and<BR>&gt;he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live<BR>&gt;somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm<BR>&gt;reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your<BR>&gt;good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he<BR>&gt;would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally<BR>&gt;<BR><BR>--<BR>Dr.Cuddy<BR><BR>To remove yourself from the <A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org</A> mailing list please
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Hi there, hope you are doing well today.  I am on SSI & have been for abo=
ut 7 year's now. I applied the first time by myself & was turned down. Then=
I reapplied a second time & was turned down then also. The third time I go=
t me a lawyer that specializes in SSI & let him reapply for me, within 6 =
months I had my SSI.  I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be able=
to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori

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ond time &amp; was turned down then also. The third time I got me a lawye=
r that specializes in SSI &amp; let him reapply for me, within 6 months=
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usband thinks I should but I&nbsp;have a feeling I would be turned down.&=
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I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had bu=
t the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. =
________________________________ From: Donna Johansen <donnajoha=3D
________________________________ Fromlto="mailto:nsen@telus.net">nsen@telus.net> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail=
.obgyn.net> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM Subject: RE: Let=
's talk about symptoms! Ann-Marie, OK, you are the first person h=
ere who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with si=
tting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not =
found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better =
but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so =
that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after ev=
ery surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me =
when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do yo=
u feel that pain now? Donna J ________________________________ =
From: adhesions@adhesions.org<= ______________________ =
From:
adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of=
annmarie bluett Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM To: Multiple=
recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! =
I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY=
SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK=
recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post op=
p 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergen=
cy situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and =
now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God? =
 HELL no"! It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to g=
o and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. =
My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to t=
he point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was viol=
ent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdom=
en which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and sto=
od too long.  Sex was and is very painful. Now I know that my doc went =
in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that =
because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as =
everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my append=
ix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was f=
rightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and whe=
n I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.== 0AAll I know =
is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises=
what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful=
for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative=
 is not acceptable. Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning =
somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day Loads of hug=
s Ann-Marie          --- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Mu=
rray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote: =0AFrom: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.=
com> Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! To: "Multiple recipients o=
f list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> Date: Saturday, 21 February,=
2009, 4:22 AM I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a l=
ife or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage=
and it seems like someone else that was famous did. Some times I think m=
aybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends u=
p passing. I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't s=
it higher then we do.=0 >A----- Original Message ----- From: BBLDEB@aol.co=
m To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Friday, February 20=
, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! Kelly,   =
  I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or m=
ore before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I=
have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 o=
r more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a te=
aspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my =
surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement befor=
e you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever ans=
wered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal sur=
geries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again=
is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I hav=
e no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable =
in medical /prescription areas.     It is unbelievable what some =
doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out o=
r can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if =
they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to dea=
l with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a mo=
ment, sorry).     The worst part is they know about my blockages,=
but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation bef=
ore he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain=
is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the on=
ly relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have=
4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).     Goo=
d luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.   Sincerely=
, Debbie ________________________________ Need a job? Find an empl=3D
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV>I have the same thing.&nbsp; Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Donna Johansen &lt;donnajohansen@telus.net&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS &lt;adhesions@mail.obgyn.net&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR></FONT><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Ann-Marie,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.&nbsp; This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.&nbsp; Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.&nbsp; I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.&nbsp;&nbsp;Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. &nbsp;Do you feel that pain now?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Donna J</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size== 2><B>From:</B> adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>annmarie bluett<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I cant belive what I am reading.&nbsp; OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.&nbsp; The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.&nbsp; Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?&nbsp;&nbsp;HELL no"!</DIV>
<DIV>It&nbsp;seems so different here in the UK - we dont have&nbsp;to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.</DIV>
<DIV>My symptoms&nbsp;were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it&nbsp;was violent and watery.&nbsp; I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen&nbsp;if&nbsp; I&nbsp;either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.&nbsp; Sex was and is very painful.</DIV>
<DIV>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want&nbsp;to do any more damage to my internal&nbsp;organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.&nbsp; He did&nbsp;put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.</DIV>
<DIV>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.&nbsp; I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative&nbsp;is not acceptable.</DIV>
<DIV>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day</DIV>
<DIV>Loads of hugs</DIV>
<DIV>Ann-Marie&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <I>&lt;klmurray_61@msn.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Kelly Murray &lt;klmurray_61@msn.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" &lt;adhesions@mail.obgyn.net&gt;<BR>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>I know what you mean.&nbsp; How do we know if it is a life or death situation.&nbsp; Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.</DIV>
<DIV>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. </DIV>
<DIV>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.&nbsp; I realize they don't sit higher then we do.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com">BBLDEB@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Kelly,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><FONT size=4>I too have blockages.&nbsp; Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.&nbsp; Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.&nbsp; And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.&nbsp; And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.&nbsp; My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"&nbsp; To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.&nbsp; They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the&nbsp;only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.&nbsp; Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!&nbsp; And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><FONT size=4>It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.&nbsp; I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.&nbsp; They cause them every time they do surgery!&nbsp; (Venting for a moment, sorry).</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><FONT size=4>The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.&nbsp; Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.&nbsp; When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.&nbsp; I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><FONT size=4>Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Sincerely,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Debbie</FONT></STRONG></DIV></FONT><BR><FONT style="FONT: 10pt arial,; COLOR: black">
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I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.

Terrie


-----Original Message-----
From: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm
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I have the same thing.? Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.




From: Donna Johansen <donnajohansen@telus.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!


Ann-Marie,

OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.? This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.? Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.? I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.??Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. ?Do you feel that pain now?

Donna J


From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!









I cant belive what I am reading.? OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.

Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.? The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.? Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God???HELL no"!

It?seems so different here in the UK - we dont have?to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.

My symptoms?were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it?was violent and watery.? I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen?if? I?either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.? Sex was and is very painful.

Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want?to do any more damage to my internal?organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.? He did?put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.

All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.? I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative?is not acceptable.

Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day

Loads of hugs

Ann-Marie?????????

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:


From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM




I know what you mean.? How do we know if it is a life or death situation.? Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.

Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing.

I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.? I reali >ze they don't sit higher then we do.


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From: BBLDEB@aol.com

To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM

Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!




Kelly,

????I too have blockages.? Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.? Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.? And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.? And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.? My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"? To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.? They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the?only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.? Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!? And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.

????It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.? I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.? They cause them every time they do surgery!? (Venting for a moment, sorry).

????The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.? Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.? When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.? I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).

????Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.

?

Sincerely,

Debbie

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<EM><FONT face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" color=mediumorchid size=3>I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.<br>
<br>
Terrie</FONT></EM><br>
<br>
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<div>I have the same thing.&nbsp; Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.<br>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Donna Johansen &lt;<A href="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net</A>&gt;<br>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM<br>
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<div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Ann-Marie,</FONT></SPAN></div>


<div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.&nbsp; This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.&nbsp; Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.&nbsp; I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.&nbsp;&nbsp;Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. &nbsp;Do you feel that pain now?</FONT></SPAN></div>


<div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Donna J</FONT></SPAN></div>
<br>


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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org</A> [<A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org?">mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>annmarie bluett<br>
<B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM<br>
<B> To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS<br>
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<div>I cant belive what I am reading.&nbsp; OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.</div>


<div>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.&nbsp; The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.&nbsp; Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?&nbsp;&nbsp;HELL no"!</div>


<div>It&nbsp;seems so different here in the UK - we dont have&nbsp;to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.</div>


<div>My symptoms&nbsp;were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it&nbsp;was violent and watery.&nbsp; I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen&nbsp;if&nbsp; I&nbsp;either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.&nbsp; Sex was and is very painful.</div>


<div>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want&nbsp;to do any more damage to my internal&nbsp;organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.&nbsp; He did&nbsp;put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.</div>


<div>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.&nbsp; I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative&nbsp;is not acceptable.</div>


<div>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day</div>


<div>Loads of hugs</div>


<div>Ann-Marie&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
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--- On <B>Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <I>&lt;<A href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com</A>&gt;</I></B> wrote:<br>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Kelly Murray &lt;<A href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com</A>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<br>
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" &lt;<A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net</A>&gt;<br>
Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM<br>
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<div>I know what you mean.&nbsp; How do we know if it is a life or death situation.&nbsp; Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.</div>


<div>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. </div>


<div>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.&nbsp; I realize they don't sit higher then we do.</div>

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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM</div>


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<div><STRONG><FONT size=4>Kelly,</FONT></STRONG></div>


<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><FONT size=4>I too have blockages.&nbsp; Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.&nbsp; Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.&nbsp; And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.&nbsp; And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.&nbsp; My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"&nbsp; To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.&nbsp; They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the&nbsp;only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.&nbsp; Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!&nbsp; And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.</FONT></STRONG></div>


<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><FONT size=4>It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.&nbsp; I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.&nbsp; They cause them every time they do surgery!&nbsp; (Venting for a moment, sorry).</FONT></STRONG></div>


<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><FONT size=4>The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.&nbsp; Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.&nbsp; When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.&nbsp; I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).</FONT></STRONG></div>


<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><FONT size=4>Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.</FONT></STRONG></div>


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<div><STRONG><FONT size=4>Sincerely,</FONT></STRONG></div>


<div><STRONG><FONT size=4>Debbie</FONT></STRONG></div>
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