WHY do so many surgeons not believe in adhesions causing PAIN???

From: IAS Admin (tracy.joslin@adhesions.org)
Mon Dec 24 17:40:05 2007

From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of WendyEbbe3@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:41 PM To: tracy.joslin@adhesions.org Subject: Re: WHY do so many surgeons not believe in adhesions causing PAIN???

Hey Katkat,

I think it's safe to say that we've all been there and done that. I also would like to know why these surgeons treat us like it's all in our head. I've done some research and have found Dr's. in Germany that do nothing but surgeries for the adhesions. I myself hope to come up with enough money to go to Germany and at least give it a try. I won't go into all of the details about my case, but I'm at the point where I just exist and don't have a life at all and right now that sounds like my best option. There is a lot of information on Adhesion Related Disorder (ARD). You'll have to do a lot of research to find what is going to be the best for you. There are too many Dr's. out there that believe adhesions can't cause any pain. It's hard to find one that know's adhesions do cause pain. I hope you find what's going to work for you and I really wish I had some answers for you. Just remember you are not alone here. Good Luck! Wendy

Original Message Subj: WHY do so many surgeons not believe in adhesions causing PAIN??? Date: 12/19/2007 11:01:21 P.M. Central Standard Time From:tracy.joslin@adhesions.org To: adhesions@dns.obgyn.net Sent on: From: lkatn4@aol.com (Katkat) Subject: WHY do so many surgeons not believe in adhesions causing PAIN???

Hi all! I have been reading this site for awhile and have a question. I had my gallbladder removed last Dec and still have problems. When he removed it there were also extensive adhesions to my omentum and transverse colon areas. He removed them and the only way I found out about them was when I requested his report... Now a year later I still have many problems and pain on that side as well as a bad pain in upper right side right below rib area. My dr thought maybe I had hernia but I have had 2 surgeons examine me as well as CT scan and MRI and they both say no hernia... I am thinking it might be more adhesions?? WHY don't adhesions show up on anything? Or can they? I had multiple testings done before I had gallbladder out also and not ONCE did any dr say oh I see adhesions in there!!!

I am very discouraged because the surgeon I saw yesterday basically told me WE (he means the surgical community I guess) do NOT believe adhesions cause pain!!!!! And when I tried to further question him about it he basically blew me off. I asked him if by chance he knew of any dr's or surgeons that specifically dealt with adhesions and he said OH NO, there is NO SUCH THING!!! Gawdddd.... I was so frustrated when I left there. Now I am not 100% sure that is my problem but it is worth a shot since everything else has been ruled out. And I did have extensive adhesions in this same area where I still have pain.

So I guess my questions are, is there any dr's that specialize in this? And do adhesions actually cause pain? And why can't these adhesions be seen with these tests? And lastly WHY did this surgeon dismiss me so? I don't get it!

I live in the southern california area. So if anyone knows of any dr's out this way I would really appreciate it!

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