Shali
At Sun, 12 May 2002, Rita Steele wrote:
>
>Hi Shali,
>Thanks for responding so quickly. You've really done
>the flush 8 times! I've honestly thought about doing
>it again thinking a stone may be lodged in my bile
>duct.Apparently they can't see gallstones in the liver
>on MRI's, Ct scans, etc.. I didn't realize they could
>be found in the liver, none of the Drs. ever mentioned
>this. But none of them believe me when I tell them I
>actually passed them. My daughter-in-law is an RN &
>she was taught you couldn't pass them but she believes
>me. I had an epidural last Oct. & all it did was make
>my pain worse! I will take your advice & do the flush
>again as much as I hate the thought. My flush is a 3
>day ordeal, also. Does your recipe call for fasting,
>epsom salts, fruit salad w/whipped cream, olive
>oil,lemons, & chamomille tea? Thanks ever so much,
>Shali. I hope you had a good day. My Kids took me out
>for lunch & a movie. We had a nice day.
>Rita
>
>--- Shali wrote:
>> Hi Rita -
>>
>> One flush does not get them all out. As I said, the
>> liver holds about
>> 2,000. The only stones that pass are the ones that
>> are ready to go and
>> I say you have more in there if you got what you did
>> the first time
>> around. There is no doubt in my mind. Ive known
>> lots of people in the
>> same predicament. Ive done 8 flushes total and each
>> time, there were
>> stones until I eventually got none. The epidural
>> I'll never do again.
>> AS they were removing it, it left my upper left
>> thigh numb. That was 7
>> months ago. Its still numb. I also took everyone
>> else's advice that
>> the epidural was the way to go. It didn't work
>> anyway as toning down
>> any pain. And yes, I am all too familiar with as
>> long as youre walking,
>> you aint sick. But back to the stones, you got some
>> fairly large ones
>> out. Who's to say theres not one in there the size
>> of a golf ball
>> making you feel the way you do? Or a hundred more
>> small ones. Its when
>> they get caught in the bile ducts too that cause
>> pain. You just oughta
>> consider another one while youre waiting on surgery.
>> Yes I agree, the
>> oil is disgusting but it sure is effective without
>> being cut open!
>>
>> Shali
>>
>> At Sun, 12 May 2002, Rita Steele wrote:
>> >
>> >Shali,
>> >I did the liver/gallbladder flush before I had my
>> >gallbladder out. My Chiropractor gave me the
>> recipe.
>> >On 2/14/00 I passed @ least 40 stones from pinhead
>> >size to large grape size. The recipe was
>> throuroughly
>> >disgusting but I was desperate! But I continued to
>> be
>> >in severe pain so I went to a gastro Dr. & I took
>> >several of the stones with me, he wouldn't even
>> look @
>> >them & said you could not pass stones! I had an
>> >ultrasound that showed I had no stones in my
>> >gallbladder, imagine that! Finally I was given a
>> HIDA
>> >scan that came back that my gallbladder was only
>> >functioning @ 4%. So after suffering for two months
>> I
>> >had my gallbladder removed, but the pain got worse
>> >after surgery. I'm not on any pain meds. Drs. a
>> very
>> >reluctant to prescribe me anything that works. So I
>> >feel like surgery is my only option. Hopefully it
>> will
>> >confirm that I have adhesions so my employer will
>> get
>> >off my back. They think because I can walk & talk
>> that
>> >I can continue to work. Unfortunately I have a high
>> >pain tolerance I had my kids without medication,
>> but I
>> >would have an epidural if I had to do it all over
>> >again!!! Thanks for the suggestion though I really
>> >appreciate it. I have the recipe too, if anyone
>> else
>> >would like to try it. Happy Mothers Day to All!
>> >Rita in AZ
>> >--- Shali wrote:
>> >> Jennifer -
>> >>
>> >> Hold on before you go jumping into this because
>> you
>> >> are still having
>> >> problems yet the usual answer nothing is wrong.
>> >> Hope I dont get in
>> >> trouble here but I happen to know a few things
>> and
>> >> this may be worth
>> >> finding out if the pain goes away for a few
>> bucks.
>> >> I will assume that
>> >> since you had your gallbladder out, you were
>> having
>> >> gallbladder problems
>> >> or attacks. You are still having trouble -
>> doesnt
>> >> surprise me if this
>> >> is the scenario: The gallbladder doesnt hold near
>> as
>> >> many stones as the
>> >> liver. The liver holds or can hold around 2,000.
>> >> Do they address the
>> >> liver? NO. Just the gallbladder. Then how can
>> one
>> >> feel better? A liver
>> >> flush can push more stones out. Its a 3 day
>> event
>> >> to find out. If you
>> >> go in for adhesions and dont have them, you
>> havent
>> >> gained anything. If
>> >> you can do a liver flush, you WILL gain something
>> -
>> >> either the knowledge
>> >> that you arent dealing with adhesions because the
>> >> pain is gone OR the
>> >> pain isnt gone and its adhesions. You have a
>> good
>> >> chance at staying out
>> >> of surgery. I have the recipe for the flush if
>> you
>> >> want it
>> >>
>> >> Shali
>> >>
>> >> At Sat, 11 May 2002, Rita Steele wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Jennifer,
>> >> >I had my gallbladder removed on 3/22/00 instead
>> of
>> >> >feeling better the pain got worse. I've been to
>> @
>> >> >least a dozen different Drs. over the last two
>> >> years.
>> >> >I've had every test imaginable & everything
>> always
>> >> >comes back "NORMAL"! Not until I went to an
>> >> >independent medical Dr.last Dec. (my employer
>> >> >apparently thought I was faking my pain & I've
>> been
>> >> >employed by the same co. for 21 yrs!) did anyone
>> >> >mention adhesions.To make it more upsetting he
>> told
>> >> me
>> >> >after all the tests I suffered through, (that
>> put
>> >> me
>> >> >deeper in debt) would not show adhesions only
>> >> surgery
>> >> >would! But he recommended I have 3-6 mos. of
>> >> >psychiatric help for my depression, he said
>> surgery
>> >> >was a last resort. Well, after going through
>> >> therapy,
>> >> >taking three different anti-depressants the pain
>> >> has
>> >> >not gone away! I have apt. with a surgeon in
>> >> Phoenix
>> >> >this Tues. who I pray is the answer to my pain.
>> I'm
>> >> >sick & tired of being treated like a nut case.
>> My
>> >> pain
>> >> >seems to be worse @ night & when I was working I
>> >> used
>> >> >my right arm constantly the pain became
>> >> excruciating.
>> >> >I've been on medical leave since Oct. 01', my
>> >> employer
>> >> >is taking me off disability on Monday because
>> the
>> >> >psychiatrist released me because he can't do
>> >> anything
>> >> >else to help me! Life is not fair! A heating pad
>> is
>> >> >the only way I get through the night. I really
>> feel
>> >> >for you if you are going through what I have
>> been
>> >> for
>> >> >the last two years.
>> >> >Pain Free Hugs,
>> >> >Rita in AZ
>> >> >--- Millie wrote:
>> >> >> Jennifer,
>> >> >> Yes, the more they cut you, the more adhesions
>> >> you
>> >> >> can get, and there is no
>> >> >> 100% cure for adhesions.
>> >> >> Millie
>> >> >
>> >
>
>>>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Jennifer"
>> >> >> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:28 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Trip to E.R last night...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I've been having some massive upper right
>> >> >> abdominal pain/painful
>>
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