Re: Pelvic Clearence, I believe I have heard of that before!

From: dtouch (dtouch@bellsouth.net)
Tue Nov 13 15:59:42 2001


To the person sith a surgeon wanting to do a pelvic clearance, I would see how fast I could run the other way, pain or no pain. Seek some more advice. You would probably end up committing suicide because all you would be is a skeleton with a beating heart. I know personally what pain is as I have massive adhesions from a violent automobile accident wherein I lost my large intestine and now my small intestine has moved up and adhesed to my diaphragm. I am going to have surgery on November 28 to try and release this plus some other painful places. I am full of hope that I will do well and I am a person that is very hard to bring down. I have been an R.N for 35 years and such a thing as this is absolutely coming from a mad maniac surgeon with not too much upstairs. Again, think and the best of luck to you. Love & hope, Dolores in Louisiana dtouch@bellsouth.net

Bev wrote:

> The description of a procedure of this type does sound somewhat
> firmiliar to me, and I think that it was also done in the UK!
>
> I am pretty sure the FELLOW that this was performed on was a,
> " William Wallace, " or better known as, " Brave Heart!" The procedure
> was called, " disembowelment " and was not performed under anesthetic of
> any kind at the time they did this back in the years from 1200 - 1400
> A.D. The person was quite alert and concious of what was happening, and
> was witness to his own disembowelment, even to the point of watching his
> internal organs thrown into a burning fire pit directly in front of him
> as he was tied by wrists & ankles in an upright position to a stretch
> rack.
>
> Though I think today, the " surgeon " who discussed a " pelvic
> clearence" for you would probably dispose of organs removed in a
> different fashion, and would hopefully have you anesthetized, other then
> that he sounds to me about as intellegent as those who performed this
> torture back then in the UK!
>
> Though my discription of this act turns a stomach, the thought of a
> surgeon discussing this type of procedure with a human being because
> they have adhesions makes my stomach turn even more..to me I see no
> difference in these two acts, if there is a difference it is only that
> time may have perfected the act of disembowelment, and just when you
> think this couldn't get any worse, think of this surgeon's patients who
> suffer from " cardiac adhesions!!"
>
> Karen, seek other medical advice before allowing such an atrocious act
> of inhuman treatment, as this is not medical intervention, it is a sick
> mind behind a scalpal looking for an easy answer to a medical condition
> he obviously knows little about!
>
> The one thing that was told to you and is true is the one thing that can
> tell you why this procedure will not effectively help your adhesion pain
> and suffering, and that was being told you may still have pain and
> sufferring after this is completed, and what you will also have is a lot
> ostomy's ( openings from the inside to the outside of your abdomen)
> Probably muscle hernias, pain meds that will eventually cause GERD, and
> then what will he do to clear that condition up? Remove your esophagus
> and trachea, then you will have a hole in your neck to breath out of,
> but if you develope lung problems from that, well Karen, adhesions of
> the plural cavity are as frequent as pelvic/abdominal adhesions, you
> know the rest of this story by now if you elect to remain with a a
> surgeon who boarders on executioner!
> All you need to know to answer whether this would be effective for you
> or not is to know that something has to be left in your body, and as
> long as that must be, adhesion attachment is probable!
>
> You need to educate yourself about Adhesion Realted Disorder enough to
> understand what to allow and not to allow to happen to your body and
> enough to question ANY medical care provider you deal with...in my
> opinion, you have never dealt with any to date, as you sure have not
> been given decent medical care..you deserve more then what has been
> offered to you, this proposal would not be performed on an animal let
> alone a human being!@
>
> Take this to your surgeon and if he wants, he can call me on my dime any
> no matter the time zones or time itself! You just let me know, and I
> will be waiting for his call!
> Be wise now my dear, be wiser then him!!
> Bev
>


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