Re: adhesion pain in the ER: a nurse's opinion

From: KathFindlay (klfindlay@adhesions.org.uk)
Mon Jun 25 19:49:36 2001


Hi Folks, I don't want to dwell on this nurse any longer than necessary, I think she has got to us all including myself. Reading Kathryn's reply, I can also see and agree the point that she is making. In the UK we get all our pain medication from our GP or from a pain clinic. If we need medical attention or run out of pain meds, out with our GPs surgery hours we have what is called Area Docs. Each one has the name of the area that they are from.

You telephone your GP and you are automatically put through to the area doc and if you are able to visit their office you do, If you do not feel well enough to travel to his office then he will make a house call. Therefore we would only need to visit the ER if we had something more serious.

These area docs are run by volunteer Drs. I had to call my Moray Docs a few months ago when I was feeling sick through the night and had a severe headache that I could not cope with, when the volunteer Doc arrived he gave me an injection and told me if I did not feel better soon, not to hesitate to call him back again.

I have not heard of any mention of this kind of system in the US. Perhaps you could suggest such a system to your local authorities. It certainly leaves the hospitals to deal with more serious matters. Accidents etc.

In Friendship Katherine Findlay United Kingdom Adhesion Society mailto:kath.findlay@adhesions.org.uk http://www.adhesions.org.uk

-----Original Message----- From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org]On Behalf Of Kathryn Sent: 26 June 2001 00:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: adhesion pain in the ER: a nurse's opinion

At Tue, 19 Jun 2001, anonymous wrote: >
>I found this site by accident and have read so many stories of
>"mistreatment" by nurses and doctors in ERs when you come to us in pain.
>I want you to think of it in our terms.
>
>You wander in day and night, most of you walking on your own, in no
>apparent acute distress.
>You register and wait, telling everyone in the busy waiting area that
>you MUST be seen immediately, "because you hurt so badly."
>You take up valuable space in busy trauma and emergency medicine
>departments complaining of terrible pain in your abdomen, and you tell
>us you must get pain meds for the pain.
>
>One a pain assessment scale of 1-10, virtually all of you cite between
>an 8 and a ten. But you aren't perspiring, crying, vomiting, bloated,
>or acting like you are acutely ill.
>
>Many of you refuse to have x-rays, scans and other diagnostic studies
>because you say "all those tests have been done a million times and they
>are always negative" but you demand pain medication!!
>You tell us you have adhesions but adhesions are nothing more than
>layers of scarring that have no nerve endings. How can this cause pain?
>
>I am told "I need 100 mg of Demerol, IM " by someone who refuses to
>allow us to examine them, and when we refuse to give you narcotics you
>become upset.
>
>What do you want from us? If every drug addict walked into my ER and did
>what many of you do, they'd be booted out by Security but for some
>reason, you feel we are treating you unfairly??
>
>Maybe instead of asking for pain medication, you might benefit from
>talking to a therapist who can help you deal with your "pain"?
>
>If we do an MRI or flat plate and see something suspicious., of course
>you'll be treated aggressively, and receive sympathy and medication.
>Otherwise, please understand, we are not a narcotic dispensing
>department for everyone with indigestion or cramps.

WOW !! What a hornet's nest!!

I totally understand the anger and frustration on both sides. Because of ER staff having to double as a doctors office for some people, they spend too much time on sniffles, sneezes, and upset stomachs that should not be treated in an ER. Then people with real pain are mistaken for people just seeking attention or looking for free care.

I think the an.ER Nurse is over worked and burnt out. I agree that a long vacation or change in career may be a good idea. Possibly even some sensitivity training. I hope this nurse never has ovarian cancer or adhesions because the medical community addresses both of these diseases with the response of it "Being In Your Head", "A Mental Disorder", "Is Probably IBS, or Constipation".

I hope you will read all of these responses and re evaluate your words and opinions and decide to be a bit more open minded and caring to your patients. You have no idea how helpless it feels to come to someone for help and have them treat you so poorly. Remember that one day it may be you Mother, Daughter, Grandmother or best friend that someone takes this same attitude with. Take a LONGGGG Vacation and return to HELPING People not insulting and doing harm. Nurses are special people (I know MANY) you go into this line of work to DO GOOD, but your words are now DOING HARM. So take a step back and think long and hard about this.


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