Re: Why is my surgeon giving me such a hard time?

From: jenny low (
Fri Feb 23 22:45:36 2001


I had a NG tube when I had my hysterectomy. Yes they are very painful. I was lucky in the fact that they put mine in while I was still in surgery. i had an epidural so the NG tube actually hurt more than the incision for the hysterectomy.

>From: "Millie" <>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Subject: Re: Why is my surgeon giving me such a hard time?
>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:47:32 -0600
>You had a nightmare,too. It changes you for life when these things happen.
>cannot afford to go through too much more. I have lost a lot of weight.
>Everyone comments on it - like I can't look in the mirror.
>Did the gastric tube hurt? Is that the nasogastric tube,or another kind? I
>am scared to death of them, even though I haven't yet had one.

>>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jean (from PA)" <>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
>Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 5:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Why is my surgeon giving me such a hard time?
> > At Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Millie wrote:
> > >
> > >Se,
> > >I am going through hell, too. All because of a TAH that I find out I
> > >need. She left the right ovary.She said the path. was o.k. She said the
> > >organs she removed were in pretty good shape.So why did she mangle me?
> > >have hurt every day and night since I came home. Bowel function is not
> > >She laughed at me and called me her "colicky baby." She tried to pass
> > >as irritable bowel, becase it was the lazy way out to read my past
> > >and not consider she hacked me up. You don't know what this has done to
> > >mentally and physically. i have a lot of bowel problems, and pain so I
> > >standup straight, walk right, sit for too long, or lay down certain
> > >don't see anything ever improving - here it is over 3 weeks. I am mad
> > >women I know here. They all were glad they had theirs done. NOT ME!!!!
> > >guess I can't blame them, though. Yes, adhesions can and do re-form
> > >surgery, the more they cut and move things around, the more adhesions
> > >get. I bet I am 10-fold with them since the surgery. She was supposed
> > >have cut them, and put in Interceed. But I read where that's not a sure
> > >cure all. She found minimal endo, which according to the post op
> > >did nothing with. I read somewhere that women ob/gyns are more apt to
> > >you up. I don't know why. I never should have agreed to let her even
> > >me, because once they have you under, they can do whatever they want. I
> > >sorry I'm so bitter, but I can't be left like this, or worse, forever.
> > >have thought about the pill route,too, but with my luck, it would
> > >and leave me worse off! LOL. My gastro gave the whole dept. orders not
> > >accept any more messages from me - he said because I called the office
> > >much, as well as after hours. I thought that's what they are there for.
> > >sid I'd have to see their psychologist, or he wouldn't keep me as a
> > >I told the psychologist that since what happened to my Mom, and to me,
> > >I don't trust many Ds. - including that ob/gyn. But I bet the gastro
> > >my money, and the ins. co. money. Someday I pray to be better so i can
> > >there and tell them all what I think of them - especially the ob/gyn. A
> > >of them just don't care. You're just a $ sign.
> > >Keep in touch.
> > >Millie
> >
> > Millie,
> > I have had MANY empathetic doctors in the past.
> > The only really good empathetic one retired on me!!!
> > He was a GYN who only dealt with womanly problems, not childbirth
> > anymore.
> > The ovary he took out (last one) was attached to my vaginal wall inside
> > by adhesions. It also had cysts on it.
> > He even said after his surgery "no wonder you were in so much pain". He
> > said he had never seen anything like it in all his years of practice.
> > He also found adhesions on the peritoneum and gall-bladder.
> >
> > The doctor who took the 1st ovary was a completely different story!!!
> > He did my first ovary surgery but said nothing was wrong with me when I
> > went back with the problems with the 2nd ovary......RIGHT!
> > I got my reports from him a few days ago and I saw he even wrote on his
> > reports that I have an extremely "low tolerance for pain"!!!.....after
> > all I have endured over my lifetime and 17 surgeries!
> >
> > During surgery he had:
> > 1. removed the ovary from the bowel which it was firmly adhered to,
> > which also had cysts on it. He even said it took an extreme amount of
> > time to get it off of the bowel.
> > 2. had to remove the ovary and tubes completely.
> > 3. repaired (sewed) my bowel, so he must have punctured it getting the
> > ovary loose.
> > 4. removed part of my Omentum
> > 5. removed silk sutures which he said were imbedded terribly in my
> > Omentum for some reason. He had to give up cause it was impossible to
> > get them all.........
> > BUT he couldn't understand why I was in allot of pain afterward!!
> >
> > This was all done with a full sized laparotomy incision, plus my bowels
> > were all messed up from him working on them and I couldn't go or let any
> > gas afterward (intestines go into shock).
> > He didn't think I should have needed pain pills 2 days later. I finally
> > had my husband sneak my Herb-lax into the hospital and after I took them
> > I passed allot of gas, moved my bowels and was ok!!
> > There are allot of doctors out there who probably have never even
> > experienced pain of surgery themselves, let alone adhesions!!
> >
> > With my other 2 adhesion surgeries (different doctor) which involved the
> > bowels and a laparotomy incision I had a gastric tube inserted so I
> > wouldn't "blow up" and get as much pain when the bowels went into shock.
> > JEAN (from PA)
> >

>> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "SueT" <>
> > >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
> > ><>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:52 PM
> > >Subject: Why is my surgeon giving me such a hard time?
> > >
> > >> Dr. Wiseman stated in a recent chat, "even the most skilled surgeons
> > >> will have adhesions come back - the trick is to get someone who will
> > >> work with you."
> > >>
> > >> Hello everyone. I've only posted perhaps a couple of times here
> > >> due to the fact that I'm not so sure that I have much to offer in the
> > >> way of help to others. I'm still learning.
> > >>
> > >> Nearly two years ago, a laparoscopy was performed on me by a very,
> > >> skilled surgeon. Endometriosis was found and treated along with
> > >> adhesions which were lysed. Ovary adhered to pelvic sidewall and
> > >> sigmoid colon. Until I had recuperated from the surgery, I had no
> > >> what normal bowel function was! With the exception of some monthly
> > >> I was well for approximately 7 months. Constipation returned, but
> > >> worse along with tremendous abdominal distention, pain seemingly
> > >> everywhere, pulling sensations, bladder difficulties and more. I
> > >> now seeked the help of the same surgeon. I have seen innumerable
> > >> specialists and had many, many procedures performed. The surgeon is
> > >> insisting that I have irritable bowel. It truly seems as though he
> > >> doesn't want to care for me. That scar tissue is out of the
> > >> >From what I have read, this seems to be a common concern for many
> > >> people, in that their care givers are giving up. The
> > >> for one, would rather not put that label on me until I've had another
> > >> lap to rule out other etiologies (now thats a switch). Other
> > >> have stated that yes, scar tissue is a possibility along with others.
> > >> what's with the surgeon?????????????? I read somewhere that sometimes
> > >> the surgeons have concerns about reimbursement from insurance
> > >> due to the nature of the surgery. I have insurance and am quite
> > >> of paying for the balance.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone have any insight as to why the surgeon is causing me more
> > >> grief than what I'm already going through? I'm totally miserable. I
> > >> feel as though I must be insane or something. I feel like I'm being
> > >> dumped. There was one instance for example, that I made a mistake
> > >> my pain meds, stumbled to bed, realized what I had done and thought
> > >> myself, "oh well, maybe I won't wake up" and went to sleep.
> > >>
> > >> Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Sue
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Jean (from PA)
> >

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