Re: Anne...Second-look laparoscopy....re-formed adhesions & de nova

From: Renee Madron (1renee2@gte.net)
Wed Jul 5 21:41:03 2000


I have called and surmised adhesions to be like "KUDZU", which is a wild vine that grows rapidly in Tennessee mountains and around (where I was born and raised) . You can burn it, cut it, and wash it away, but it always comes back...I just thought I would share that useless piece of information...lol Renee

Helen Dynda wrote:

> I remember reading that Dr. J. Glenn Bradley, formerly with OBGYN.net,
> compares adhesions to cob webs - "cob webs" which are "easily swept
> down" within a week to ten days following a surgical procedure. I am
> not a medical professional; but I really wonder if it was a wise idea
> on the surgeon's part to "wash out adhesions" with "something like a
> water pik." I would think that just the force of the spray would be
> traumatic to the soft tissues within our body. Laparoscopy surgery in
> and of itself can cause adhesions. If any debris ( blood ) from the
> laparoscopic procedure is left within the abdominal cavity, the result
> is the development of adhesions!! To me, it would seem plausible
> that, instead of "washing out the adhedilin (?) tissue", the force of
> the spray may have helped to introduce debris from the surgery further
> into the abdominal cavity...thus contributing to de nova adhesions De
> nova adhesions are new adhesions, which form away from the surgical
> site. From: Anne Hayashi (mhaya0902@aol.com)
> Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:19:27 -0500I underwent a (3) part laparoscopy after
> four previous surgeries. No barriers were used. During the first
> surgery, the adhesions from the abdominal wall to the bladder and
> intestines were severe. The adhesions were taken down, and normal
> anatomy was restored. The idea was to go in for a second look one
> week later, and wash out the adhedilin tissue while it was in a rubber
> band state. Every original adhesion had returned,100% and 20% more
> denovo adhesions had returned. These rubber band like adhesions were
> washed out with something like a water pick (gently), and it was
> decided to go in a third time the next week. The third look revealed
> that all the adhesions had returned and there were 50% more denovo
> adhesions. These were all attachments to the abdominal wall. The
> "spray out" procedure was tried one more time, and I am now glued down
> with severe pulling pain, like many of you. I write this only because
> intervening surgically before the adhesions thickened did not work in
> my case. Perhaps there are others out there who have had success with
> this type of procedure. I, like Marla, am guessing that multiple
> surgeries may make ischemia a real problem due to decreased
> vascularity. I have often wondered if acupuncture immediately after
> the surgery would help by increasing vascularity?
> Anne H.


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