Re: Sharonda-Re: Why didn't he take care of things while he was in there?

From: Sharonda Moore (
Fri Oct 1 17:09:50 1999

While my doctor is a gynecologist, he is also an obstetrician and he clearly suspected endo but hesitated on attempting anything else. He basically does not have the expertise to do the necessary things in surgery. He basically told me that he doesn't want touch the adhesions - I think its out of a league. On one hand, I feel he should have been more aggressive, on the other hand, do you want someone operating on areas that he is not sure of? What we have to understand is that just because you are going to an ob/gyn, doesn't mean he has enough expertise to treat you surgically. I suspect that's why most doctors give hormones.


>From: (Helen Dynda)
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <>
>Subject: Re: Sharonda-Re: Why didn't he take care of things while he was
>in there?
>Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:39:53 -0500
>I am not a medical professional; but I have read that;
>** When a surgeon does a diagnostic laparoscopy, this is the only
>purpose of the surgery - for a diagnosis!!! If surgery is warranted,
>then surgery is scheduled for another date.
>** Surgeons generally limit their surgical expertise to their specialty.
>An gynecologic surgeon specializes in gynecological surgery. A
>gastro-intestinal GI) surgeon specializes in GI surgery.
>At Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Ginny King wrote:
> >
> >Hey Sharonda,
> >
> >I had thought of trying Perloe as well, but was worried since his
> >specialty is fertility that he may not want or have time to see me as I
> >have had a hysterectomy as well. You probably should see a GI as the
> >adhesions on my bowel are as painful as the ones I used to have glued to
> >my uterus. Although the GI treats more of the iniside of the bowel. I
> >think we all get to the point that more surgery can do more harm than
> >good with adhesions. It is a depressing diagnosis to receive as you
> >feel like there should be something else that they can do. I do not
> >understand though why he did not take care of things while he was in
> >there? Of course, I'm one to talk as my gyn left the bowel adhesions
> >that had glued my appendix and colon to my right side when he did the
> >hysterectomy. I still do not understand why he did not go ahead and
> >take them down while he was in there. Now, no one wants to go in again.
> >I'll let you know how the pain clinic goes. Take care of yourself.
> >Ginny
> >At Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Sharonda Moore wrote:
> >>
> >>Ginny,
> >>
> >>I was happy until he decided that his diagnostic surgery was enough and
> >>feeding me narcotics would suffice. That shocked me - its not like it
>is a
> >>standstill, as a matter of fact it made things worse to have surgery
> >>him since he only cut one ovary lose and didn't remove the adhesion,
> >>the other one strapped and left the adhesions covered and went no where
> >>my uticolon (my new term for the uterus and colon bound together). He's
> >>a bad ob but he's not used to endo - he had only 3 patients and he did a
> >>hyst on one.
> >>
> >>He's J. Adams in Fayetteville. I am just having more problems, I can
> >>certain foods and my whole intestines contracts and its literally burns,
> >>especially around my back. Sometimes the pain just shows up. On top of
> >>I get constipated all the time and its getting painful to go. On top of
> >>that I still have the monthly cramps, starting 2 weeks before. I am
> >>with hormones b/c they are unpredictable with me and in the end don't
> >>Funny thing today, the HR person and I disagree on my disabled status
> >>she had the nerve to ask me if I was sick and if it really hurt that
> >>Maybe I should copy my surgical pictures and show all the fun cysts,
> >>and adhesions.
> >>
> >>Right now I am jumping through hoops to see Perloe. I had to change
> >>doctors, wait for it to take effect and then see a doctor that will
> >>me.
> >>
> >>Enough of my ranting and raving. Maybe I should check out your docs. I
> >>probably need to have GI tests to see the full extent.
> >>
> >>Thanks for the info.
> >>
> >>Sharonda
> >>
> >>>From: (Ginny King)
> >>>Reply-To:
> >>>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> >>>Subject: Sharonda-Re: hello
> >>>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:46:02 -0500
> >>>
> >>>Hey Sharonda,
> >>>I posted to you a minute ago and it just vanished, so if you get this
> >>>twice...sorry. I thought that I had seen in earlier post that you were
> >>>from Atlanta as well. My current gyn is Norman Fried in Snellville. I
> >>>live in Roswell but have been going to him for ten years as he is one
> >>>the few specialist that has remained no matter what insurance my
> >>>decided to switch to. My GI is Diane Wisebraum at Northside. She is
> >>>wonderful and is the one to finally diagnose the Crohn's. My surgeon
> >>>Eugene Davidson also at Northside. He is very conservative regarding
> >>>adhesions and surgery and does not want to it again with me unless it's
> >>>an emergency. He is the one that is sending me to the pain clinic at
> >>>St. Joe's. I start October 11th and I'm a little nervous. I have
> >>>thought about changing my gyn to one who is a little closer. I thought
> >>>I had read in the past that you had a doctor that you were very happy
> >>>with, I don't remember the specialty. If you don't mind my asking, who
> >>>do you see? Best wishes. Ginny
> >>>
> >>>At Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Sharonda Moore wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >Way to Go Ginny!!! Go Braves and Chipper Jones!!!
> >>> >
> >>> >Ginny,
> >>> >
> >>> >How are you doing? What doctor have you been seeing here?
> >>> >
> >>> >Sharonda
> >>> >
> >>> >>From: (Ginny King)
> >>> >>Reply-To:
> >>> >>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> >>> >>Subject: Re: hello
> >>> >>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:37:24 -0500
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Hi Toni,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Sorry I can't root for the Reds (Sorry I'm from Atlanta) but I do
> >>> >>you get to go to the game and enjoy yourself. I think you could use
> >>> >>pleasant outing with your family. Take care and get some rest. God
> >>> >>bless. Ginny
> >>> >>
> >>> >>At Wed, 29 Sep 1999, toni welsh wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Just a small post to see how you are all doing. I am having an
> >>> >> >day, but as our days go on they seem to get harder, tonight I am
> >>> >> >going to sit in front of the tv, our cinti reds are awsome this
> >>> >> >and they are in the pennant race, exciting. I went to but tickets
> >>> >> >the first playoff game in cincy, so hoe they go! We got pretty
> >>> >> >seats to right behind home plate, my son and his girlfriend are
> >>> >> >with us.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >That was the excitement of my day, the loger this goes on, the
>more I
> >>> >> >stay at home, but when I stopped to get tickets, picked some other
> >>> >> >things for dinner, and I had a terrible cramping spell and had to
> >>> >> >home, just never know when this os going to act up. I know part
>of it
> >>> >> >is irritable bowel, but the pulling and hard pain is always on the
> >>>right
> >>> >> >side, the gynseems to think the bowel may be stuck to the right
> >>>and
> >>> >> >on the abdominal wall. I am sorry I rattled on, hope you are all
> >>>doing
> >>> >> >okay!
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Your friend
> >>> >> >Toni From Cinti, routing for the REDS!
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >--
> >Ginny King
> >
>The 15th century proverb which summarizes the purpose of medicine is:
>* To cure sometimes, to relieve often, to comfort always. *

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