Re: update-celebrex and PT eval-Toni

From: smithy@maine.rr.com
Wed Jul 28 15:26:47 1999


At Wed, 28 Jul 1999, toni welsh wrote: >
>At Wed, 28 Jul 1999, chris smith wrote:
>>
>>Hi everyone:
>>I reported about a week ago that I had started celebrex (Sat July 17th)
>>and that it helped, but not eliminated my pain. What it did eliminate
>>was the abdominal/pelvic pain in the right lower quadrant-this
>>disapeared about 4 hours after the first dose. This is the same pain
>>that disappeared for 3-4 months after each lap. (at the time of the
>>laps I didn't have hip or back pain) As this past week wore on I got
>>better and better and on Sunday I have to say I felt 100% normal! Even
>>the hip and back pain was gone. It was unbelievable. I then stopped
>>taking the celebrex because I knew I was going for a PT evaluation and
>>besides feeling like a fool going in completely painless, I knew I would
>>not be able to accurate evaluate anything the therapist was doing to me.
>>I skipped the Monday am dose and by noon i was in pain again. The PT
>>therapist told me that when celebrex works, it works very well. I agree
>>with that.
>>The PT evaluation was today and I had no idea what to expect. She
>>evaluated my pelvis/hips etc. She told me that my pelvis was out of
>>line and that when she was doing the manipulations she felt the right
>>sacroiliac joint pop and slip a little. She also worked on my coccyx,
>>which has been hurting. She said that was also out of line. Then she
>>told me that today's session might have cured my problem! I was polite
>>but thinking to myself, I don't think so! But when I left that office I
>>was relatively pain free and remained that way for several hours. When
>>I tried to go to sleep, I lay on my right hip in my usual sleeping
>>position and the pain was back! She warned me that this might happen and
>>so I have another appt on Thursday and several next week.
>>So at this point I am more and more convinced that my present pain is
>>not due to adhesions and there is some doubt that it ever was, but over
>>the course of 2 years it is hard to say for sure. I certainly had
>>adhesions when they did the laps.
>>Since this is an adhesion discussion forum, I'm not sure I even belong
>>here anymore, but I would like to encourage everyone to keep an open
>>mind about the cause of their pain. You might have adhesions, and they
>>could very well be causing your pain, but they might not be, or might
>>not be the only reason for your pain. As confusing as this is, I think
>>it is true. If I hadn't gone to the colo-rectal surgeon I wouldn't have
>>been directed (by him) to the bone/joint source of the pain because my
>>pcp still maintains it is either my bowels, or the adhesions, or some
>>combination of both. However, he is not aware of my reaction to the
>>celebrex yet, or the PT, so I don't know if he will change his opinion
>>or not.
>>
>>Chris S.
>
>chris, I havebeen on celebrex for a week, and I am going to aquatic PT
>as son as ins approves it, takes so long, but a few of my drs are
>thinking I should see neurologist to talk or try t diagnose FB, they do
>beleve the way my pain has spread and getting worse that is a big
>pssibility, I will talk later we have some bad storms headed our way,
>and I have to go to grocery, and time it for my husband to carry them in
>for me, cannot even do that anymore, the pain in abdomen is better, bt
>not completely gone. FRUSTRATED still!

Hi Toni: I've been thinking about you. Are you still taking the estratest? The reason I ask is because i have read that some women complain of joint and muscle pain during menopause. If you haven't taken the hormone replacement, maybe that's what's causing your new pain. What you have sounds kind of severe but I have read about that connection between joint/muscle pain and menopause. I hope the celebrex is helping you the way it helped me. I think between that drug and Viagra, Pfizer must be making a bundle. I'm doing this from memory but I think Pfizer is who makes celebrex. >From what I read on a neurology forum, a neurologist is not the doctor
to see for a diagnosis of fibromyalgia. It said that a rheumatologist is the one to see and that many neurologists don't believe that Fibromyalgia even exists! Well, you know how that is when you go to a doctor who thinks like that. Even though it appears that adhesions is not causing my pain and even though the pain is much better, I still don't know what's causing the problem. The MRI showed inflammation on some of the facet joints of the spine and even though my rheumatology screening tests are negative, they did show an elevated gamma globulin and labeled it "chronic immune process." So there's something going on that's causing inflammation in the spine as well as possibly the sacroiliac joint. The pain clinic doctor talked about injecting something into the sacroiliac joint as a test. I was wondering if you ever got my answer to your e-mail because I never heard from you.

Chris S.


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