Re: The way to go!!!

From: Donna Johansen (donnajohansen@telus.net)
Sun Mar 8 15:43:21 2009


Great information...will check out the site later...so happy I can now go to my son's hockey game..it's the final and for a banner. I am amazingly feeling no pain today after being on Celebrex for 2/12 days at double dose. Right now I am afraid to hope too much because it's been so bad (thus not being very nice to my family) and I have no idea if this is the reason but won't argue...I am feeling great! It actually started last night when at his other game and usually sitting causes a worsening of the pain and all of a sudden I though "no pain!?"....who knows...this stuff does wax and wane at times so will keep you all informed if it works longer..

Donna J

-----Original Message----- From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of Donna C Boggs Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 12:22 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: The way to go!!!

I am 53 yrs old and post menopausal so I take Vit b-12, Folic Acid, Calcium/Mag/Zinc, Omega 3-6-9 and Vit C daily. The work for me and my body - comprehensive blood work indicated a b-12 deficiency and you must take folic acid with b-12, calcium for my menopausal bones, and the list of needs and solutions goes on.

I highly recommend that you seek the advice of a reputable nutritionist for yourself. We all differ, your body does not need what any other body needs.

I cook with curry very often, Turmeric is one of the main spices in curry and is a powerful anti-inflammatory. I take Turmeric capsules when I haven't cooked in awhile. I only eat cultured dairy products with live bacteria for colon health - organic yogurt and Kefir. I only eat organic, locally baked whole grain breads. I buy organic fruits and veggies, and whole grain pastas. Lentils, beans, green leafy veggies, tomato, broccoli, whole grain brown rice, are the staple of my diet. Red meat only once in awhile and chicken twice a week. I drink lots of water, no soda, herbal teas hot and cold and avoid sweeteners of all kinds. Oatmeal every morning with fruit and some protein, an egg or yogurt. Walnuts, ginger, bell peppers....ooooh, I am getting hungry!

I have been researching anti-inflammatory foods for awhile and found a great site for reference: http://www.nutritiondata.com/ - you can look up foods by their anti-inflammatory properties.

Yes, I cheat once in awhile and have pizza or a burger or white bread or fried chicken - but I pay the price of slowed digestion and bloating and it isn't worth it very often.

The experts are right! Good nutritional habits and daily exercise are beneficial. Lack of them will deteriorate your health. Those of us with health issues MUST practice good habits just to have a somewhat normal life!

I hope this helps......

-----Original Message----- From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of Donna Johansen Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: The way to go!!!

I am interested in what you are using for anti-inflammatory supplements and/or diet and the results you are seeing. Donna

-----Original Message----- From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of Donna C Boggs Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:26 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: The way to go!!!

Celebrex is fantastic for adhesion pain! I have used it in the past with great results. I once tried waiting for the FDA approval of it before surgery, but succumbed before the launch of the drug.

Pain is, of course, the most obvious concern of ours and there are many drugs that will reduce pain. I have become rather masterful at dealing with the physical pain without drugs and only see the surgeon when the physical symptoms other than pain become too severe. When the adhesions start interfering with normal function of my colon then I make the appointment and start gearing up for another surgery. I am filled with adhesions that don't bother me a bit nor interfere with my overall excellent health. There is just one area that causes persistent problems that could become life-threatening. I can sense when it is time to get them cut back and start over again. I would rather have an "easy" out-patient surgery than an emergency bowel re-section or colostomy or suffer from toxic shock because my colon and bladder are so tied up that they can't eliminate toxins from my body.

I have wondered about the direct relationship between pain and inflammation and the formation/maturation of adhesions. I do believe that pain causes inflammation which causes the over-drive of the adhesion tissue to kick in. Depression causes chemical changes in the body that can cause water retention. Water retention causes depression and the whole cycle starts spiraling into itself. I think that there is the same kind of connection between the pain of adhesions being a direct cause of the inflammation response and its own spiral.

What I do know is that the adhesions that were cut back last Tuesday had blood supply and nerves. It is living tissue. That tissue was traumatized in surgery and is wounded. That wounded tissue is doing its best to repair itself. I have to pain what-so-ever from the surgery itself, I am not at all tender and barely bruised. My pain tolerance is very high. After three days, however, I could feel the same burning, stabbing sensations in the same place where the adhesions where a big problem. I know that it is the adhesion tissue itself trying to heal. I know that the nerves that were disturbed are inflamed and sending pain signals. I know that when blood supply is cut off from tissue that the tissue suffers and causes discomfort.

I am doing what I can to keep the inflammation response to a minimum through diet, supplements, exercise, and taking whatever anti-inflammatory that works for me in the moment. So far so good.

-----Original Message----- From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of Mark in Seattle Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: The way to go!!!

At Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Donna Johansen wrote: >

Interesting thing is that I have been on >large doses of Celebrex for the arthritis and my adhesion

problems >seemed to be relatively minor last fall to recently.

Mark writes:

Donna,

You should know that Celebrex has been shown to "dramatically" reduce adhesion formation in mice. In January 2006, doctors in Boston reported a surprise discovery. It's been written up. You can read more here:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com

search for 'adhesions'

Or you can look at the 'news' page on the home page of http://www.adhesions.org and search for the Crazy Glue article. It talks about Celebrex.

The strange thing is that I haven't heard anything new since 2005 about this. I wonder if anyone is looking into this discovery any further. There's nothing on the http://www.clinicalstudies.gov web-site. Maybe I just don't know where to look. I don't want to be a cynical person. So until I know different, I'm choosing to think that somebody somewhere is thinking about this.

But if the reports in mice are true and it works on humans, then maybe the celebrex you were taking for your arthritis has prevented the formation of adhesions after your surgery. If so, I'm very happy for you.

Yours,

Mark in Seattle


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