Re: ADHESIONS digest 942

From: Kristine Lovaas (krisl1204@yahoo.com)
Thu Feb 26 07:31:53 2009

I will definitely come back and let you know what's found and what they do to fix it. Thank you for your support! I know we all come to this site for information, support and hope. I've found all of that when reading posts on this site. I'll share my story. I'm really hpoing for great results! Take care everyone! Kris

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________________________________ Fromlist ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:58:09 PM Subject: ADHESIONS digest 942

                ADHESIONS Digest 942

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) For Kristine Lovaas     by katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com (Katie)   2) Re: Questionaire     by WendyEbbe3@aol.com   3) Re: Questionaire     by WendyEbbe3@aol.com   4) Re: Questionaire     by teatime47 <teatime47@aol.com>   5) Re: ADHESIONS digest 938     by jetstamp@yahoo.com (jetstamp)

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Good luck to you and please, please come back and let us know how you are and what they found.  Some folks never come back here to share the rest of their story with us and it's very disheartening.

Thank you so much, Katie

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========Original Message===== 3D= ====         Subj:     Re: Questionaire       Date:     2/23/2009 1:27:12 P.M. Central Standard Time       From:     r_lafferty_2005@hotmail.= co.uk       To:     adhesions@mail.obgyn.net<= /TD>       Sent on:   
i would like to do the questionaire to please.

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>I would be interested in participating in this as= well
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>>I thought about coming up with a questionaire to track peoples information.
>>Before I do, is anyone= interested in participating?
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A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! -------------------------------1235611527--=0A=0ATo remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mail= a> ------------------------------ing list please go=0Ato the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/fo= a> ------------------------------ 25 Feb 2009 20:25:21 EST From: WendyEbbe3@aol.com To: adhesions@adhesions.org Subject: Re: Questionaire Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1235611521" ----------------------ent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit=0A=0AI'm interested! I also think it's a great = ="-----------------------------1235611521" ----------------------idea.=0A=0A=0AWendy=0A=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DOriginal=A0 Message=3D=3D= ="-----------------------------1235611521" ----------------------======    Subj: Re: Questionaire  Date: 2/23/2009 1:27:12 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _r_lafferty_2005@hotmail.co.uk_ (mailto:r_lafferty_2005@hotmail.co.uk)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    i would like to do the questionaire to  please. > >I would be interested in participating in this as  well >Annmarie > >>I thought about coming up with a  questionaire to track peoples information. >>Before I do, is anyone  interested in participating? > >Alta > To remove  yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go to the  unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm p.s. for the  web forum version see  http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy =0Asteps! =0A(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x120126= 7884/aol?redir=3Dhttp:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3F= sc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) -------------------------------1235611521 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"=0AContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable=0A=0A=0A=0A
I'm interested! I also think it's a great idea.
 
 
Wendy

=====3D===Original Message===== ====         Subj:     Re: Questionaire       Date:     2/23/2009 1:27:12 P.M. Central Standard Time       From:     r_lafferty_2005@hotmail.= co.uk       To:     adhesions@mail.obgyn.net<= /TD>       Sent on:   
i would like to do the questionaire to please.

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>I would be interested in participating in this as= well
>Annmarie
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>>I thought about coming up with a questionaire to track peoples information.
>>Before I do, is anyone= interested in participating?
>
>Alta
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A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! -------------------------------1235611521-- To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go=0Ato the unsubscribe fo= -------------------------------1235611521-- To remove yourself fromrm at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm=0Ap.s. for the web forum= -------------------------------1235611521-- To remove yourself from version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:54:15 -0500 From: teatime47 =0ATo: adhesions@adhesions.org=0ASubject: Re: Questi= ----------------- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:54:15 -0500 From: teatimonaire=0AMessage-ID: =0AMIME-= ----------------- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:54:15 -0500 From: teatimVersion: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/alternative; BOUNDARY©183298-f65e-4906-aee0-bdb1eab857ad Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --a9183298-f65e-4906-aee0-bdb1eab857ad Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Count me in Terrie In a message dated 02/25/09 20:47:18 Eastern Standard Time, WendyEbbe3 writes: ======== =Original Message======== Subj:Re: Questionaire Date:2/23/2009 1:27:12 P.M. Central Standard Time From:r_lafferty_2005@hotmail.co.uk To:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net Sent on:    i would like to do the questionaire to please. > >I would be interested in participating in this as well >Annmarie > >>I thought about coming up with a questionaire to track peoples information. >>Before I do, is anyone interested in participating? > >Alta > To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go to the unsubscribe form at http://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm p.s. for the web forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! --a9183298-f65e-4906-aee0-bdb1eab857ad Content-Type: TEXT/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
Count me in
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In a message dated 02/25/09 20:47:18 Eastern Standard Time, WendyEbbe3 writes:
 

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i would like to do the questionaire to please.

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>I would be interested in participating in this as well
>Annmarie
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>>I thought about coming up with a questionaire to track peoples information.
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--a9183298-f65e-4906-aee0-bdb1eab857ons@obgyn.net Subject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 938 Message-ID: <200902260155.n1Q1tji08691@mail.obgyn.net> At Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Kristine Lovaas wrote: > >Hi Wendy! I'm having surgery on Tuesday, the 3rd of March by Dr. Eric Johnson @ Abbott Northwestern in Minneapolis. He is with Surgical Specialists of Minnesota. His number is 612.863.7770. He's a great doctor. I did a lot of research about him, talked to several other doctors for their opinion and met with him twice. All the feedback has been very positive. He's done many successful adhesions removal surgeries. He said he's done it successfully on 15 nurses @ Abbott alone. I asked him why so many nurses. He said that nurses are more prone to adhesions after having abdominal surgeries because of the lifting they do of patients, etc. I think the fact that these nurses chose him to do their surgeries also speaks to his capabilities since they work with many surgeons in their jobs @ Abbott. I can't wait to have this done. I'll update everyone when I get home about the results. Take care, everyone!  Kris > >________________________________ >From: Adhesions Society =3D0ATo: Multiple recipients = Take care, everyone!  Kris > >________________________________ >Froof list A= Yes Kris, do let us know how you are doing as soon as you are able.  Did they tell you how long you would be in the hospital? Also, if you work, how long do they expect you will need to stay home for recovery? Did Dr.  Johnson discuss any ideas as to how to prevent the adhesions from returning- like how soon and how much you should move around, and did he talk about using a specific adhesion barrier? Not too long ago I watched a TV news report (not local Twin Cities, however) somewhere on the internet that told about a woman who had not enjoyed eating for quite some time due to adhesions.  She finally had surgery for the adhesions and they used Seprafilm- she apparently was doing fine and was able to enjoy eating again but I don't remember how long it had been since her surgery- maybe a year but not sure. Not trying to influence you, but I have read some reports stating that lycopene 'might' help with adhesions.  It is still mainly just a 'theory' according to Dr.  Andrew Weil, but if you don't mind tomato juice, what the heck! I'm taking lycopene capsules and also try to drink some tomato juice every day.  I take other supplements as well- too numerous to mention and quite expensive but have doubts as to whether they can dissolve adhesions, but maybe would be more effective at preventing them if you are fortunate enough to have surgery.  Just a thought. Also, I was wondering where you had your colonoscopy done.  I am thinking about having one after reading your story.  However, back in the 1990s I had an endoscopy, sigmoidoscopy, barium, and one colonoscopy and were told they were normal.  I have had only one such exam since my useless hysterectomy in 1998- a sigmoidoscopy which was probably 7-8 years ago.  The sigmoidoscopy went fine until it got to my lower abdomen in the bikini area that set off the worst pain in the same area where I often have experienced it (I still have a nasty scar there from a myomectomy in 1991) The doctor said 'Does that hurt?' and I nodded.  But there was absolutely no discussion about the test or why I felt pain when/where I did.  I was rushed out as usual. One thing interesting I read about a doctor at one of the Mayo clinics- not the Minnesota one, either Florida or Arizona.  Anyway, she said that usually during bariums the doctor leaves the room and does something else, and then comes back to see if the barium made it through, and if it did, it is assumed that everything is OK.  She said that one time she decided to stay and watch the barium as it went through, and she noticed an area where the fluid slowed down, which alerted her to a potential problem.  I wonder if any other doctors do this. So, I'm thinking of maybe going to a place that does only gastro stuff- like maybe Minnesota Gastroenterology.  There is also a company that goes by the name Colon and Rectal Associates or something like that.  My insurance states that I do not need a referral to see a specialist, but don't know if any clinics may have their own policy of requiring a referral- which would be a pain since it is so difficult to get cooperation from anyone. I have even considered scheduling an appointment with a surgeon myself- after all I believe they are considered 'specialists'- they come up as a category on my insurance companies' site- supposedly part of their job is diagnostic as well as regular surgery.  However, I'm gun-shy as I can imagine them saying, 'Why are you here? Who sent you here?' To which I could honestly say, 'I sent me here.  I'm my own doctor and my insurance does not require a referral to see you anyway!' but of course wouldn't dare actually say! Keep in touch! jetstamp   > >________________________y, February 25, 2009 2:19:28 PM=0A>Subject: ADHESIONS digest 938=0A>=0A>=A0= Keep in touch! jetstamp   > >________________________               ADHESIONS Digest 938 > >Topics covered in this issue include: > >  1) Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL) >    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com >  2) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out >    by barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy) >  3) Re: ADHESIONS digest 923 >    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy) >  4) RE: Dr. Gerhart >    by "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins" >  5) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out >    by Alta Costew >  6) SSI/Disablity >    by Alta Costew >  7) RE: SSI/Disablity >    by Lori OLSON >  8) Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >    by Alta Costew >  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >    by teatime47@aol.com > >-------------------------------------------------yEbbe3@aol.com To: adhesions@adhesions.org=3D0ASubject: Re: Surgery--Would =3D=0A>by teatime4= >-------------------------------------------------yEbbe3@aol.com To:7@aol.com=0A>=0A>-------------------------------------------------you do it= >-------------------------------------------------yEbbe3@aol.com To: again? (POLL) Message-ID: MIM== >by teatime47@aol.com > >-------------------------------------------------E-Version: 1.0=0A>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=3D"--= >by teatime47@aol.com > >----------------------------------------------------------------------1235569660"=0A>=0A>-----------------------------= >by teatime47@aol.com > >---------------------------------------------1235569660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-= >--------------------1235569660" > >----------------- feel and I honestly don=3D=0A>--------------------1235569660"=0A>=0A>-----= nt-Transfer-= >--------------------1235569660" > >-------------------------------------------1235't know how much=A0 longer I can=0A>last. I h= nt-Transfer-= >--------------------1235569660" > >-----------------ave to try to hold out until I have an appointment with  the SSI >Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows of a good  surgeon in >MN please let me know. >Wendy > >========Original  Message======= >==    Subj: Re: Surgery--Would you do it >again? (POLL)  Date: 2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: >_kkajark@aol.com_ (mailto:kkajark@aol.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ >(mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    >The odd thing is I am going to have surgery for  the 10th time an am so >looking forward to it because I to agree that a even a  little relief is >better than non. > >At Mon, 23 Feb 2009,  carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote: >> >>Yes!  Even short lived  relief is worth it to me. >> >>Caryn R >> >>>-----  Original Message ----- >>From: "Katie"  >>To: "Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS" >>Sent: Friday, February 6,  2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> >Subject: Surgery--Would you  do it again? (POLL) >> >>For those that have had surgery strictly for  removing the adhesions ... >>would you do it again? >> >>Your  answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery >>for  mine.  I'm just  curious. >> >>Thanks, >>Katie >> >>tm >>htm > >To  remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go >to  the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm >p.s. for  the web forum version see  >http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm >**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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I have to try to hold out until I have an appointment wit= >h >the SSI Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows of a go= >od >surgeon in MN please let me know. >Wendysize=2>====== ===ize=2>Original >Message===== >==== >style="BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0 1px solid; FON= >T-SIZE: 10pt; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0 1px sol= >id; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e0e0e0" >cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0> >  >  >    Subj: >    Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL) >  >    Date: >    2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time >  >    From: >          href="mailto:kkajark@aol.com">kkajark@aol.com >  >    To: >          href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net<= >/TD> >  >    Sent on:    >The odd thing is I am going to have surgery fo= >r >the 10th time an am solooking forward to it because I to agree that a ev== >en a >little relief isbetter than non.At Mon, 23 Feb 2009, >carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:>>Yes!  Even short lived >relief is worth it to me.>>Caryn R>>>----- >Original Message ----->From: "Katie" >>To: "Multiple recipients of list= > >ADHESIONS" >Sent: Friday, February 6,= > >2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern>Subject: Surgery--Would= >you >do it again? (POLL)>>For those that have had surgery strictly = >for >removing the adhesions ...>would you do it again?>>Your= > >answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery>f= >or >mine.  I'm just >curious.>>Thanks,>Katie>>tm>htm>To >remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please got= >o >the unsubscribe form at http://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htmp.s.= >for >the web forum version see >http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm
>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! >----------------------s.org mailing list please go=3D0Ato the unsubsc=3D=0A>=0A>-----------------= > See yours in just 2 easy steps! >------------------------------------1235569660--=0A>=0A>To remove yourseribe form at http://www.a= > See yours in just 2 easy steps! >----------------------dhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm p.s. for the we= > >-------------------------------1235569660-- > >To remove yourseb forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm=0A>=0A>------------------------= -------------------1235569660-- > >To remove yourseb forum version see ------=0A>=0A>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST)=3D0AFrom: barkbar= -------------------1235569660-- > >To remove yourseb forum version see k@cox.net (Cuddy) To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net Subject:= >------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out=3D0AMessage-ID: <200902251752.n1P=3D= ------------------- > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST) Re: =0A>------------------------=0A>=0A>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (= ------------------- > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST) Re: CST)HqP728447@mail.obgyn.net> > >I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain >specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not >believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the >one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop me >down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would >not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep >"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind >that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visit >is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any >other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to >happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am >barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is >the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more >afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please >someone send me an e-mail. > >At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote: >> >>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a >>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back >>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain. >> >>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some >>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be >>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch >>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more >>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like >>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. >> >>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >>begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >>work something out. So far, so good. >> >>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably >>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. >> >>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live >>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your >>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he >>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally >> >-- >Dr.Cuddyessage.htm > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CST)=3D0AFrom: WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)=3D0ATo: adhesions@=3D=0A>essage.htm= ------------------------- > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CST=0A>=0A>------------------------------=0A>=0A>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 20mail.obgy= ------------------------- > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CSTn.net Subject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923 Message-ID: <200902251== >essage.htm > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 20753.n1PHrr930306@mail.obgyn.net>=0A>=0A>Kris,=0A>=0A>Who's the surgeon= >essage.htm > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 F in Minneapolis? I'm in MN and looking for a good=A0 surgeon.=0A>I've alrea= >essage.htm > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 Fdy been to The Mayo clinic and the U of M and they were no  help at >all. > >Wendy > >========Original  Message==== ===== >=    Subj: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923  Date: >2/22/2009 11:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _klmurray_61@msn.com_ >(mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ >(mail to:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    > >I live in New Mexico and have been to MN to Mayo and also the University of  >MN.  No help at either of these places. It has been several years. >Hey, by the way, I have a uncle named Ron Peterson that lives in  >Minneapolis. (Prior Lake)  He isn't a Dr >>. though. >Kelly > >----- Original Message ----- >From: _Kristine Lovaas_ (mailto:krisl1204@yahoo.com)  >To: _Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS_ >(mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:46  PM >Subject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923 > >Was his name Dr. Ron Peterson? I live in MN, had him as an OB/GYN. He did  >surgery on me 5 years ago for a right side ovarian cyst. It ruptured before  the >surgery was scheduled, and we had to move the date up. i never had any  >pelvic pain until after that surgery, in spite of having an appendectomy in  1973, >2 C-sections in 1977 and 1978, and ectopic pregnancy in 1986 and a  partial >hysterectomy in 1991. i started having the awful pain and nausea that  all of us >go through about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a colonoscopy 2 years ago  that took >the doctor an hour and half to complete because of adhesions. i'd  never even >heard of the the condition prior to that. i'll make the long  medical saga >short. After so many tests to rule out everything else, i'm  having surgery on >Tuesday, March 3rd in Minneapolis to have adhesions removed.  I've researched >the surgeon and had conversations with several doctors who  allspeak to his >success. I'm really hoping for good results. I've read so much  on this site and >haven't responded before. Take care, everyone. i wish you all  pain tolerant >days! Kris > >age.htm > >------------------nnifer B. Blevins" To: ion see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm=0A>=0A>= age.htm > >------------------nnifer B. Blevins" To: =3D0ASubject: RE: Dr. Gerhart=3D0AMessage-ID: <14559730= age.htm > >------------------nnifer B. Blevins" To: ion see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu> >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message=0A>MIME-Version: 1.0=0A>Content-Type: multi= e.htm > >------------------E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu> >Content-clapart/mixed;=0A>=A0=A0=A0 boundary=3D"----_=3D_NextPart_001_01C99772.DE99337= e.htm > >------------------E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu> >Content-claset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >I had surgery with Dr. Gerhart about 1 1/2 ago.  Everything went = >smoothly.  He cut adhesions between my liver and dueodenum(sp?) and took == >biopsies of several spots on my diaprhagm and bowels.  He took pictures = >of the surgery and spots all over my insides.  Turns out it was endo = >everywhere.  Before surgery it kind of felt like I had a lapband = >preventing me from eating anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and = >process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very = >professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  = >I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well. > >________________________________ From: adhesions@adhesions.org on behalf of Marlene Wheeler=3D0ASent: Tu=3D=0A>him and he= nce as well. > >________________________________ From: adhesio took my insurance as well. > >________________________________e 2/24/2009 5:54 PM=0A>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS=0A>Subject: RE: Dr= took my insurance as well. > >________________________________e 2/24/2. Gerhart > >Kim, >I had surgery with Dr Gerhart about 2 1/2 years ago.  I highly recommend = >him. He's a wonderful Doctor, and is very up on the new barriers etc. I = >had a go around with surgeons here, on who tried to help me and made = >things worse. Two others who wouldn't touch me. Meanwhile I was getting = >sicker and sicker. I finally had enough and through this web site and a = >lot or research I found Dr G. ( I wish I had found him about a year = >earlier!!but??) Anyway by the time I got to him I was in pretty bad = >shape. The bad part was I had bowel that had tried to atrophy because of = >the docs here not doing anything, so I'll always have to watch what I = >eat. The good part is he was able to help. I'm doing a lot better. I = >believe he saved my life. (My right side was a total mess, almost lost = >ureter/rt kidney because of the mess). I still keep in touch with him in = >case I every have to go back. As you know these things can come back. I = >thank God everyday that I found him, otherwise I wouldn't be here to = >enjoy my children, and actually have a life. >Good Luck >Marlene >I also know a couple other people who have had surgery with him, with = >good results. They don't go on this site. I don't want to give out = >names. All I can say is if anyone can help you, I'm sure he will. > >> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:29:16 -0600 >> From: kkajark@aol.com >> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net >> Subject: Dr. Gerhart >> >> I would really like to hear from anyone who have had surgery with Dr. >> Gerhart. I sent my records to him to review but this will be my 10th >> surgery. As some of you have pointed out I should not go into surgery >> lightly. I want to make the right decision. My previous Dr could not >> do the surgery because of the density of the adhesions so I need a = >very >> good experienced doc who will not damage any of my organs. Thanks for >> your input. >> Kim >> >http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >____________________ws Live. 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boundary=3D"0-415966843-1235587102=3D:982= lly/pain meds worked out Message-= > >---------------------------93" > >--0-415966843-1235587102=:98293 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in th== > >e Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery = >in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doc= >tors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am = >so tired at being looked at like a addict. > >I feel we are like overweig= >ht people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losin= >g weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  M= >y friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she c= >ould not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out= >of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other thi== = > >ngs.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She = >ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control. > >I fee= >l like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions. = >Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and p= >robably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that th= >at adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  T= >here are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Fin= >ding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.  > >I am g== > >oing through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get = >out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they= >just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease. >= > >Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk= >. > >Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end. >Alta > >= > >________________________________=0A>From: Cuddy =3D=0A>=0A>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS = etting at my wits end. >Alta > >= > >__________________________=0AS== >__________________________ >From: Cuddy = > >To:=0A>ent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Dear Che= =0AS== >__________________________ >From: Cuddy = > >Toryl/Sa= >lly/pain meds worked out > >I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with t= >he PID.  My pain >specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I o= >riginally did not >believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain= >specialist (the >one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percoc= >et and drop me >down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a litt= >le, I would >not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he canno= >t keep >"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep= >in mind >that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My ne= >xt visit >is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there = >is any >other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is g= >oing to >happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am= > >barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is= > >the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am mo= >re >afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pl= >ease >someone send me an e-mail. > >At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wro== > >te: >> >>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was= >too for a >>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had dec= >ided to cut back >>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened wa= >s pain, pain, pain. >> >>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worke= >d yet. I wish there was some >>way you could ommunicate with your present = >doctor that it doesn't have to be >>either this or that. I'm trying a comb= >ination of opiates, including the patch >>and oxycontin, plus a few other = >milder ones. The point is not to take more >>pills or medication. The poin= >t is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >>the minimum quanitiy o== > >f medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >>If I'm feeling in= >so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like >>screaming I take = >a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >>tremendous= >ly. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. >> >>Is there any w= >ay you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >>him. Mine g= >ets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >>compassio= >nate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >>begin= >to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >>= >work something out. So far, so good. >> >>Your doctor unfortunately sound== > >s a little childish, sorry, but you probably >>already think this. He shou= >ldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >>he should be aware t= >hat extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. >> >>We're not = >in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live >>somew= >hat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >>r= >eading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your= > >>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it= >, he >>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally >> >-- >Dr.Cuddy >== >sions.org/forums/mess= >age.htm >--0-415966843-1235587102=:98293 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > >You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doctors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am so tired at being looked at like a addict. >  >I feel we are like overweight people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losing weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  My friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she could not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other things.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control. >  >I feel like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions.  Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and probably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that that adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  There are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Finding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.  >  >I am going through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease. >  >Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk. >  >Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end. >Alta > >From: Cuddy To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AMSubject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked outI have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My painspecialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did notbelieve in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (theone that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop medown to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I wouldnot get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mindthat it takes a referral to >get into one of these clinics) My next visitis in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is anyother way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going tohappen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I ambarkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this isthe price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am moreafraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pleasesomeone send me an e-mail.At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.>>I've tried mind over matter, but >it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to>begin >to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we>work something out. So far, so good.>>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.>>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he>would understand. Good lu > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:42:29 -0800 (PST)=3D0AFrom: Alta Costew org/forum= > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:42:s/message.htm=0A>=0A>------------------------------=0A>=0A>Date: Wed, t>=3D= > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:42:0ATo: adhesions@adhesions.org Subject: SSI/Disablity Message-ID: <8 >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117" > >--0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hi, > >How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband= >thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you h= >ave applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help? = >Just wondering >Alta  >--0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > >Hi, >  >How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering >Alta  >--0-20406073w.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700=3D0AFrom: Lori OLSON w.adhesions.org/fo= .htm > >------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 1rums/message.htm=0A>=0A>------------------------------=0A>n.com>=3D0ATo: = .htm > >------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 1 Subject: RE: SSI/Disablity Messa= >w.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ >ge-ID: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative;=0A>=A0=A0=A0 boundary=3D"_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e18= age.htm > >------------------------------ >ge-ID: >Content-Type: mu8c37885a_"=0A>MIME-Version: 1.0=0A>=0A>--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c378= age.htm > >------------------------------ >ge-ID: >Content-Type: mu85a_ >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hi there, hope you are doing well today.  I am on SSI & have been for abo= >ut 7 year's now. I applied the first time by myself & was turned down. Then= >I reapplied a second time & was turned down then also. The third time I go= >t me a lawyer that specializes in SSI & let him reapply for me, within 6 = >months I had my SSI.  I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be able= >to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori > >Lori Olson > >EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD >Join me > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600 >From: racostew@sbcglobal.net >To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net >Subject: SSI/Disablity > >Hi, > >How many of you are on or applied for disability?  My husband thinks I sho= >uld but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, di= >d you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering >Alta = > >--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_ >Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >.hmmessage P >{ >margin:0px; >padding:0px >} >body.hmmess age >{ >font-size: 10pt; >font-family:Verdana >} > >Hi there== 2C hope you are doing well t= >oday. ; I am on SSI &; have been for about 7 year's now. I appli= >ed the first time by myself &; was turned down. Then I reapplied a sec= >ond time &; was turned down then also. The third time I got me a lawye= >r that specializes in SSI &; let him reapply for me, within 6 months= >I had my SSI. ; I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be abl== > >e to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori= >Lori Olson >
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>Hi, > ; >How many of you are on or applied for disability? ; ; My h= >usband thinks I should but I ;have a feeling I would be turned down.&= >nbsp; If you have applied, did you do it on your own? ; ;Di= >d you have a lawyer help? ; Just wondering >Alta ; >= > >--_2d896152-3a28-42d9dhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27 -0800 (PST)=3D0AFrom: Alta Costew dhesions.org/forums/message.ht= -------------------------- > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27 -0800 (PSm=0A>=0A>------------------------------=0A>=0A>Daglobal.net>=3D0ATo: adhesi= -------------------------- > >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27 -0800 (PSons@adhesions.org Subject: Re: Let's talk about s= >dhesions.org/fo1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-802279966-1235588547=:18277" > >--0-802279966-1235588547=:18277 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had bu= >t the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >= > >________________________________=0AFrom: Donna Johansen =3D3D0ATo: Multiple =3D=0A>m= problem. > >= > >________________________________=0AFrom: Done problem. > >= > >________________________________recipients of list ADHESIONS .obgyn.net>=0A>Sent: Monday, February = e problem. > >= > >________________________________recipients of 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM >Subject: RE: Let= >'s talk about symptoms! > >Ann-Marie, >OK, you are the first person h= >ere who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with si= >tting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not = >found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better = >but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so = >that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after ev= >ery surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me = >when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do yo= >u feel that pain now? >Donna J > >________________________________ >= >From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of=3D3D=3D=0A>=0A>Donna J=0A>=0A>_______= __________________________ >= >From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:_________________________ >= >From: >annmarie bluett >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM=0A>To: Multiple=3D=0A>recipients of list ADH= _________________________ >= >From: >annmarie bluett >Sent: SaturESIONS >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >= > >I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY= >SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK= >recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post op== >p 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergen= >cy situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and = >now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God? = > HELL no"! >It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to g= >o and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. >= >My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to t= >he point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was viol= >ent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdom= >en which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and sto= >od too long.  Sex was and is very painful. >Now I know that my doc went == >in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that = >because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as == > >everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my append= >ix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was f= >rightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and whe= >n I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. >All I know = >is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises= >what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful= >for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative= > is not acceptable. >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning = >somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day >Loads of hug= >s Ann-Marie          > >--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Mu= >rray wrote: > >From: Kelly Murray com> >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients o= >f list ADHESIONS" >Date: Saturday, 21 February,= >2009, 4:22 AM > >I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a l= >ife or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage= >and it seems like someone else that was famous did. >Some times I think m== >aybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends u= >p passing. >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I real >> >ize they don't s= >it higher then we do. >----- Original Message ----- >From: BBLDEB@aol.co= >m >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Friday, February 20= >, 2009 8:07 PM >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >Kelly, >  = >  I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or m= >ore before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I== > >have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 o= >r more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a te= >aspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my = >surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement befor= >e you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever ans= >wered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal sur= >geries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again= >is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I hav= >e no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable = >in medical /prescription areas. >    It is unbelievable what some = >doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out o= >r can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if == >they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to dea= >l with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a mo= >ment, sorry). >    The worst part is they know about my blockages,= >but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation bef= >ore he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain= >is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the on== > >ly relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have= >4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). >== >A0   Goo= >d luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. >  >Sincerely= >, >Debbie > >________________________________ >Need a job? Find an empl=3D=0A>oyment agency near you.=3DA0 =3D0A--0-802279966-1235588= ly= >, >Debbie > >________________________________ >Need a job?547=:18277 Content-Type: text/html; charset= >_________________=0A>Need a job? Find an empl=3D=0A>oyment agency near you.=3Dus-ascii=0A>= 547=:18277 Content-Type: text/html; charset= >_________________ >I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >From: Donna Johansen To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PMSubject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms! >Ann-Marie, >OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now? >Donna J > >From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluettSent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONSSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"! >It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. >My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful. >Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. >All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable. >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day >Loads of hugs >Ann-Marie         --- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray wrote: >From: Kelly Murray Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM > >I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did. >Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do. > > >
>="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- >From: BBLDEB@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Kelly, >    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas. >    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry). >    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). >    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. >  >Sincerely, >Debbie > >Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. > >--0ttp://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:17:56 -0500=3D0AFrom: teatime47@aol.com=3D0A=3D=0A>ttp://http://www.adhesions.org/fo= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:17:56 -05rums/message.htm=0A>=0A>---------------------------To: adhesions@adhesions.= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:17:56 -05org Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! Mes= >ttp://http://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >---------------------------sage-ID:=0A>MIME-Version: 1.0=0A>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;=0A>bounda= http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >---------------------------sagery=3D"--------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com"=0A>= http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm > >---------------------------sage >----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well. > >Terrie > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alta Costew >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >I have the same thing.? Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >From: Donna Johansen >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM >Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Ann-Marie, > >OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.? This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.? Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.? I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.??Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. ?Do you feel that pain now? > >Donna J > > From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >I cant belive what I am reading.? OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. > >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.? The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.? Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God???HELL no"! > >It?seems so different here in the UK - we dont have?to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. > >My symptoms?were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it?was violent and watery.? I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen?if? I?either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.? Sex was and is very painful. > >Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want?to do any more damage to my internal?organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.? He did?put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. > >All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.? I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative?is not acceptable. > >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day > >Loads of hugs > >Ann-Marie????????? > >--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray  wrote: > >From: Kelly Murray >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" >Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM > >I know what you mean.? How do we know if it is a life or death situation.? Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did. > >Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. > >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.? I realize the >>>y don't sit higher then we do. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: BBLDEB@aol.com > >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS > >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM > >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Kelly, > >????I too have blockages.? Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.? Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.? And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.? And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.? My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"? To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.? They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the?only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.? Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!? And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas. > >????It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.? I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.? They cause them every time they do surgery!? (Venting for a moment, sorry). > >????The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.? Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.? When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.? I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). > >????Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. > >? > >Sincerely, > >Debbie > >Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. > >----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > >I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well. > >Terrie > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alta Costew >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > > #AOLMsgPart_2_eb176fcf-8059-4cb7-ace3-62f9b507be9d DIV {margin:0px;} > >I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >From: Donna Johansen >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM >Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Ann-Marie, > >OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now? > >Donna J > >From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. > >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"! > >It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. > >My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful. > >Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked. > >All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable. > >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day > >Loads of hugs > >Ann-Marie          > >--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray wrote: > >From: Kelly Murray >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" >Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM > >
yiv1927649460> > >I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did. > >Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. > >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: BBLDEB@aol.com > >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS > >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM > >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! > >Kelly, > >    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas. > >    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry). > >    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). > >    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. > >  > >Sincerely, > >Debbie > >Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. > > Looking for work? Get job alerts, employment information, career advice and job-seeking tools at AOL Find a Job. > >----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com-- > >To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go >to the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm .htm > >------------------------------ > >End of ADHESIONS Digest 938=0A>***************************=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=0A>--0-1964753945-123= .htm > >------------------------------ > >End of ADHESIONS Digest 95603016=3D:90539=0A>=0A>Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1=0A>Co= .htm > >------------------------------ > >End of ADHESIONS Digest 9ntent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hi Wendy! I'm having surgery on Tuesday, the 3rd of March by Dr. Eric Johnson @ Abbott Northwestern in Minneapolis. He is with Surgical Specialists of Minnesota. His number is 612.863.7770. He's a great doctor. I did a lot of research about him, talked to several other doctors for their opinion and met with him twice. All the feedback has been very positive. He's done many successful adhesions removal surgeries. He said he's done it successfully on 15 nurses @ Abbott alone. I asked him why so many nurses. He said that nurses are more prone to adhesions after having abdominal surgeries because of the lifting they do of patients, etc. I think the fact that these nurses chose him to do their surgeries also speaks to his capabilities since they work with many surgeons in their jobs @ Abbott. I > can't wait to have this done. I'll update everyone when I get home about the results. Take care, everyone!  Kris > >From: Adhesions Society To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:19:28 PMSubject: ADHESIONS digest 938                ADHESIONS Digest 938Topics covered in this issue include:  1) Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com  2) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out    by barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy)  3) Re: ADHESIONS digest 923    > by WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)  4) RE: Dr. Gerhart    by "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins"   5) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out    by Alta Costew   6) SSI/Disablity    by Alta Costew   7) RE: SSI/Disablity    by Lori OLSON   8) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!    by Alta Costew < href="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.net>  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!    by teatime47@aol.com-------------------------:teatime47@aol.com">teatime47@aol.com---------------5 Feb 2009 08:47:40 EST= talk about symptoms!    by teatime47@aol.com-------------------------From: WendyEbbe3@aol.comTo: adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Surgery--Wo= talk about symptoms!    by teatime47@aol.com-------------------------uld you do it again? (POLL)Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="-----------------------------1235569660"-------------------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitCa= -------------------1235569660"-------------------------------1235569660Contryn,I know exactly h=3D=0A>---------------------1235569660Content-Type: tex= -------------------1235569660"-------------------------------1235569660Contt/plain; charset="US-ow you feel and I honestly don't know how much  longer I can last.= >---------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US- I have to try to hold out until I have an appointment w= nger I can last.= >---------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/plith=A0 the SSI Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows= nger I can last.= >---------------------1235569660Content-Type: text/pl of a good  surgeon in MN please let me know.Wendy====== >===Original  Message========    Subj: Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)  Date: 2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _kkajark@aol.com_ (mailto:kkajark@aol.com)  To: ymailto="mailto:_adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">_adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    The odd thing is I am going to have surgery for  the 10th time an am solooking forward to it because I to agree that a even a  little relief isbetter than non.At Mon, 23 Feb 2009,  carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:>>Yes!  Even short lived  relief is worth it to me.>>Caryn R>>>-----  Original Message ----->From: "Katie"  >To: "Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS" < href== "mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>>Sent: Friday, February 6,  2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern>Subject: Surgery--Would you  do it again? (POLL)>>For those that have had surgery strictly for  removing the adhesions ...>would you do it again?>>Your  answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery>for  mine.  I'm just  curious.>>Thanks,>Katie>>tm>htmTo  remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto  the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htmp.s. for  the web forum version > see  http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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Caryn,
I know exactly how you feel and I honestly don't know how much longer I can last. I have to try to hold out until I have an appointment wit=h the SSI Judge and still have to find the right surgeon. Anyone knows of a go=od surgeon in MN please let me know.
Wendy

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See yours in just 2 easy steps!-------------------------------1235569660--To remove yourself from the t;/DIV>------------------------hesions@adhesion= -----------------1235569660--To remove yourself from the adhesions=3D=0A>t;/DIV>= -----------------1235569660--To remove yourself from the ------------------------@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcm= ------------------------@adhesions.org mailing list pleaseds.htmp.s. for the web forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/me= ------------------------@adhesions.org mailing list pleasessage.htm----------------ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm---------------- href=3D3D"mailto:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto=3D3D"mailto:= ssage.htm----------------ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.barkbark@cox.net">barkb=3D=0A>ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.h= ssage.htm----------------ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.tm----------------ark@cox.net (Cuddy)To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked outMessage-ID: <200902251752.n1PHqP72= tm----------------ark@cox.net (Cuddy)To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: R8447@mail.obgyn.net>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.=A0= tm----------------ark@cox.net (Cuddy)To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: R My painspecialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did notbelieve in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (theone that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop medown to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I wouldnot get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  > (Keep in mindthat it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visitis in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is anyother way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going tohappen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I ambarkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this isthe price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am moreafraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pleasesomeone send me an e-mail.At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, > pain.>>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more>compassionate man. Everytime, he > starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to>begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we>work something out. So far, so good.>>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.>>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally>--Dr.CuddyTo remove yourself from the "mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" > ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/fons.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:53 -0600 (CST)From: ns.org/forums/messag= s.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 200e.htm------------------------------WendyEbbe3@aol.com" ymailto=3D3D"mailto:= s.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 200WendyEbbe3@aol.com">WendyEbbe3@aol.co= >ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------m (Wendy)To: "mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obg= ------------------------m (Wendy)To: Kris,Who's > the surgeon in Minneapolis? I'm in MN and looking for a good  surgeon. I've already been to The Mayo clinic and the U of M and they were no  help at all.Wendy========Original  Message========    Subj: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923  Date: 2/22/2009 11:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _klmurray_61@msn.com_ (mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    I live in New Mexico and have been to MN to Mayo and also the University of  MN.  No help at either of > these places. It has been several years.Hey, by the way, I have a uncle named Ron Peterson that lives in  Minneapolis. (Prior Lake)  > >>; He isn't a Dr. though.Kelly----- Original Message ----- From: _Kristine Lovaas_ (mailto:krisl1204@yahoo.com)  To: _Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:46  PMSubject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923Was his name Dr. Ron Peterson? I live in MN, had him as an OB/GYN. He did  surgery on me 5 years ago for a right side ovarian cyst. It ruptured before  the surgery was scheduled, and we had to move the date up. i never had any  pelvic pain until after that surgery, in spite of having an > appendectomy in  1973, 2 C-sections in 1977 and 1978, and ectopic pregnancy in 1986 and a  partial hysterectomy in 1991. i started having the awful pain and nausea that  all of us go through about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a colonoscopy 2 years ago  that took the doctor an hour and half to complete because of adhesions. i'd  never even heard of the the condition prior to that. i'll make the long  medical saga short. After so many tests to rule out everything else, i'm  having surgery on Tuesday, March 3rd in Minneapolis to have adhesions removed.  I've researched the surgeon and had conversations with several doctors who  allspeak to his success. I'm really hoping for good results. I've read so much  on this site and haven't responded before. Take care, everyone. i wish you all  pain tolerant days! KrisTo remove yourself from the > href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto== "mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htmhtm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -0500From: "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins" <R>---= htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -0500From:---------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05ellarmine.edu= htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -0500From:" ymailto="mailto:jenniferw@bellarmine.edu">jenniferw@bellar= >R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05mine.edu>To: Subject: RE: Dr. GerhartMessage-ID: <To:ailto:14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu"=0A> ymail= ----------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05mine.edu>To:to="mailto:14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu">14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu>Content-class: urn:content-classes:messageMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/mixed;    boundary="----_=_NextPart_0;    charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableI had surgery with Dr. Gerhart about 1 1/2 ago.  Everything went =smoothly.  He cut adhesions between my liver and dueodenum(sp?) and took =biopsies of several spots on my diaprhagm and bowels.  He took pictures =of the surgery and spots all over my insides.  Turns out it was endo =everywhere.  Before surgery it kind of felt like I had a lapband =preventing me from eating > anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and =process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very =professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  =I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well.________________________________From: adhesions@adhesions.=3D=0A>______________________________From:=A0 on behalf of Marlene = ook my insurance as well.________________________________From: adhesions@adWheelerSent: Tue 2/24/2009 5:54 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: Dr. GerhartKim,I had surgery with Dr Gerhart about 2 1/2 years ago.  I highly recommend =him. He's a wonderful Doctor, and is very up on the new barriers etc. I =had a go around with surgeons here, on who tried to help me and made =things worse. Two others who wouldn't touch me. Meanwhile I was getting =sicker and sicker. I finally had enough and through this > web site and a =lot or research I found Dr G. ( I wish I had found him about a year êrlier!!but??) Anyway by the time I got to him I was in pretty bad =shape. The bad part was I had bowel that had tried to atrophy because of =the docs here not doing anything, so I'll always have to watch what I êt. The good part is he was able to help. I'm doing a lot better. I ¾lieve he saved my life. (My right side was a total mess, almost lost =ureter/rt kidney because of the mess). I still keep in touch with him in Êse I every have to go back. As you know these things can come back. I =thank God everyday that I found him, otherwise I wouldn't be here to =enjoy my children, and actually have a life. Good Luck Marlene I also know a couple other people who have had surgery with him, with =good results. They don't go on this site. I don't want to give out =names. All I can say is if anyone can > help you, I'm sure he will.> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:29:16 -0600> From: kkajark@aol.com> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> Subject: Dr. Gerhart> > I would really like to hear from anyone who have had surgery with Dr.> Gerhart. I sent my records to him to review but this will be my 10th> surgery. As some of you have pointed out I should not go into surgery> lightly. I want to make the right decision. My previous Dr could not> do the surgery because of the density of the adhesions so I need a =very> good experienced doc who will not damage any of my organs. 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http://www.adhesions.org/fons.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:38:22 -0800 (PST)From: Alta Costew <ns.org/forums/message.htm----------------------= ----------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:38:22 -0800 (PST)From--------f=3D3D"mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto=3D3D"mailto:racostew@= ----------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:38:22 -0800 (PST)Fromsbcglobal.ne= >ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------t">racostew@sbcglobal.net>To: adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Dear Chery= sbcglobal.ne= >ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------tl/Sally/pain meds worked outMessage-ID:<ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------teb80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com" > ymailto="mailto:573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com">573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-415966843-1235587102=:98293"--0-415966843-1235587102=:98293Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableYou are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in th== >e Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery =in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doc== tors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am =so tired at being looked at like a addict. > >I feel we are like overweig=ht people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losin=g weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  M=y friend went through this.  Testing showed she > had no problems but she c=ould not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out=of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other thi=ngs.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She =ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control. > >I fee=l like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions. =Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and p=robably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that th=at adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  T=here are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Fin=ding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack.  > >I am g=oing through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get =out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors > for help but they=just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease. >= >Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk=. > >Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end. >Alta > >= > >________________________________ >From: Cuddy =0A>________________________________=0A>From: Cuddy <>=3D=0A>To:= >= > >________________________________ >From: Cuddy >S=ent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM >Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sa=lly/pain meds worked out > >I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with t=he PID.  My pain >specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I o=riginally did not >believe in pain medication until > now.  I had the pain=specialist (the >one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percoc=et and drop me >down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a litt=le, I would >not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he canno=t keep >"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep=in mind >that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My ne=xt visit >is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there =is any >other way to deal with this, please let me know.== >A0 And, what is g=oing to >happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am= barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is= >the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am mo=re >afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of > dying.  Plêse >someone send me an e-mail. > >At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wro=te: >> >>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was=too for a >>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had dec=ided to cut back >>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened wa=s pain, pain, pain. >> >>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worke=d yet. I wish there was some >>way you could ommunicate with your present =doctor that it doesn't have to be >>either this or that. I'm trying a comb=ination of opiates, including the patch >>and oxycontin, plus a few other =milder ones. The point is not to take more >>pills or medication. The poin=t is to be pain free or relatively pain free with >>the minimum quanitiy o=f medication. When you mix them, it works best for me. >>If I'm feeling in=so so pain, I take a less potent > pill, If I feel like >>screaming I take =a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help >>tremendous=ly. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills. >> >>Is there any w=ay you can get this across to your doctor, without offending >>him. Mine g=ets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more >>compassio=nate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to >>begin=to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we >>=work something out. So far, so good. >> >>Your doctor unfortunately sound=s a little childish, sorry, but you probably >>already think this. He shou=ldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and >>he should be aware t=hat extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible. >> >>We're not =in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to > live >>somew=hat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm >>rêding the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your= >>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it=, he >>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally >> >-- >Dr.Cuddy >= >To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please =go >to the unsubscribe form at "http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.ht=" target=_blank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.ht=m >p.s. for the web forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/mess=age.htm--0-415966843-1235587102=:98293Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doctors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am so tired at being looked at like a addict.
 
I feel we are like overweight people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losing weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  My friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she could not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered > some tests out of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other things.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control.
 
I feel like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions.  Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and probably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that that adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  There are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Finding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack. 
 
I am going through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get out of this funk > but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease.
 
 
Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end.
Alta

From: Cuddy
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM
Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out

I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain
specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not
believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the
one that understood I was in > pain)take me off the percocet and drop me
down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would
not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep
"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind
that it takes a referral toget into one of these clinics) My next visit
is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any
other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to
happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am
barkbark@cox.net).  I > feel as though politics are involved and this is
the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more
afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please
someone send me an e-mail.

At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:
>
>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a
>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back
>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.
>
>I've tried mind over matter, butit hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some
>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be
>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch
>and oxycontin, plus a > few other milder ones. The point is not to take more
>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with
>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.
>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like
>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help
>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.
>
>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending
>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more
>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to
>beginto get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we
>work something out. So far, so > good.
>
>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably
>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and
>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.
>
>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live
>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm
>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your
>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he
>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally
>

--
Dr.Cuddy

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--0-415966843-1235587102=:98htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:42:29 -0800 (PST)From: Alta Costew <A>-----------= htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:42:29 -0800 (PST-------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:4bal.net" ymailto=3D3D"mailto:= htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:42:29 -0800 (PSTracostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.netA>------------------dhesions.org"=0A> ymailto=3D"mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhe= racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.netA>------------------sions.org=0A>Subject: SSI/DisablityMessage-ID: <895817.50117.qm@web80003.ma= racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.netA>------------------il.sp1.yahoo.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117"--0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableHi, > >How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband=thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you h=ave applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help? =Just wondering >Alta --0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi,
 
How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering
Alta 
--0-2040607322-1235587349=:50117--To remove yourself from the "mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htmp.s. for the web forum > version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: Lori OLSON <--= ----------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: Lori OLSON------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: blnddzzy@msn.c= ----------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: Lori OLSONom">dumblnddzzy@msn.com>To: <--------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:57:26 -0700From: adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailt= om">dumblnddzzy@msn.com>To: <-------------------o=3D"mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org>Subject: RE: S= om">dumblnddzzy@msn.com>To: <-------------------SI/DisablityMessage-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative;    boundary="_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_"MIME-Version: 1.0--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: > quoted-printableHi there, hope you are doing well today.  I am on SSI & have been for abo=ut 7 year's now. I applied the first time by myself & was turned down. Then=I reapplied a second time & was turned down then also. The third time I go=t me a lawyer that specializes in SSI & let him reapply for me, within 6 =months I had my SSI.  I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be able=to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....LoriLori Olson EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600From: "mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.netTo: adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: > SSI/DisablityHi, How many of you are on or applied for disability?  My husband thinks I sho=uld but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, di=d you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wonderingAlta =--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableHi there, hope you are doing well t=oday. ; I am on SSI &; have been for about 7 year's now. I applií the first time by myself &; was turned down. Then I reapplied a > sec=ond time &; was turned down then also. The third time I got me a lawye=r that specializes in SSI &; let him reapply for me, within 6 months=I had my SSI. ; I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be abl=e to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori
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 ;
How many of you are on or applied for disability? ; ; My h=usband thinks I should but I ;have a feeling I would be turned down.&=nbsp; If you have applied, did you do it on your own? ; ;Di=d you have a lawyer help? ; Just wondering
Alta ;
=--_2d896152-3a28-42d91:02:27 -0800 (PST)From: Alta Costew <R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27net" ymailto=3D3D"mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.net&g=3D= l.= >R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27net=0A>R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27t;To: ad= l.= >R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:02:27nethesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!Message-ID: <87945.18277.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-802279966-1235588547=:18277"--0-802279966-1235588547=:18277Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=iso-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableI have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had bu=t the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem. > >= > >_____________________@telus.net" ymai=3D=0A>m.=0A>=0A>=3D=0A>=0A>_______________________________= and I still have the same problem. > >= > >______________________ >Fromlto="mailto:nsen@telus.net">nsen@telus.net> >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM >Subject: RE: Let='s talk about symptoms! > >Ann-Marie, >OK, you are the first person h=ere who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with si=tting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not =found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better =but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so =that I have to > be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after ev=ery surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me =when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do yo=u feel that pain now? >Donna J > >________________________________=0A>=3DFrom: adhesions@adhesions.org<=3D=0A>______________________=0A>=3DFr= =u feel that pain now? >Donna J > >________________________________om:  [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of=annmarie bluett >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM >To: Multiple=recipients of list ADHESIONS >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >= > >I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY=SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH. >Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK=recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post op=p 1 week > now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergen=cy situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and =now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God? = HELL no"! >It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to g=o and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed. >=My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to t=he point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was viol=ent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdom=en which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and sto=od too long.  Sex was and is very painful. >Now I know that my doc went =in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that ¾cause he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as =everything was > stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my append=ix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was f=rightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and whe=n I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.== >0AAll I know =is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises=what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful=for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative==  is not acceptable. >Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning =somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day >Loads of hug=s >Ann-Marie          > >--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Mu=rray wrote: > From: Kelly Murray > >Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms! >To: "Multiple recipients o=f list ADHESIONS" >Date: Saturday, 21 February, 09, 4:22 AM > >I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a l=ife or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage=and it seems like someone else that was famous did. >Some times I think m=aybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends u=p passing. >I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't s=it higher then we do.=0 > >>A----- Original Message ----- >From: BBLDEB@aol.co=m >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS >Sent: Friday, February 20=, 2009 8:07 PM >Subject: Re: Let's talk about > symptoms! >Kelly, >  =  I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or m== ore before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I=have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 o=r more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a te=aspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my =surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement befor=e you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever ans=wered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal sur=geries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again=is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I hav=e no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable =in medical /prescription areas. >    It is > unbelievable what some =doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out o=r can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if =they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to dea=l with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a mo=ment, sorry). >    The worst part is they know about my blockages,=but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation bef=ore he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain=is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the on=ly relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have=4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of). >    Goo=d luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon. >  >Sincerely=, >Debbie > >________________________________ >Need a job? > Find an empl=3D3Doyment agency near you.=A0 --0-802279966-1235588=3D=0A>ebbie=0A>= >Debbie > >________________________________ >Need a job? > Find an >________________________________ >Need a job? >547=:18277Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii
I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.

2>
From: Donna Johansen < ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!

Ann-Marie,
OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This > was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?
Donna J

2>From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto: href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!

I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? > No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!
It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.
My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.
Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask > if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.
All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.
Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
Loads of hugs
From: Kelly Murray <"mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM

I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee > brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing.
I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.
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Kelly,
    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 > weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.
    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).
    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of > pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
 
Sincerely,
Debbie

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--0-80, 25 Feb 2009 15:17:56 -0500From: lank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm---------------ef="mailto:teatime47@aol.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:teatime47@aol.com">teatime47@aol.comTo: adhesions@adhesions.orgS= /forums/message.htm---------------ef="mailto:teatime47@aol.com" ymailtoubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!Message-ID: <8CB659D48015F6A-258-15FD@WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="--------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com"----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.comContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitContent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.Terrie-----Original Message-----From: Alta Costew To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pmSubject: Re: Let's talk about > symptoms!I have the same thing.? Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.From: Donna Johansen <"mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net" ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PMSubject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!Ann-Marie,OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.? This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.? Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping > pills.? I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.??Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. ?Do you feel that pain now?Donna JFrom: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluettSent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONSSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!I cant belive what I am reading.? OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.? The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an > emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.? Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God???HELL no"!It?seems so different here in the UK - we dont have?to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.My symptoms?were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it?was violent and watery.? I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen?if? I?either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.? Sex was and is very painful.Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want?to do any more damage to my internal?organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was > frightened he may damage it.? He did?put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.? I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative?is not acceptable.Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another dayLoads of hugsAnn-Marie?????????--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray wrote:From: Kelly Murray Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" < href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AMI know what you mean.? How do we know if it is a life or death situation.? Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.? I reali >>ze the >y don't sit higher then we do.----- Original Message ----- From: BBLDEB@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PMSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!Kelly,????I too have blockages.? Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a > bowel movement.? Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.? And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.? And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.? My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"? To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.? They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the?only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.? Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!? And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.????It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.? I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is > something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.? They cause them every time they do surgery!? (Venting for a moment, sorry).????The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.? Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.? When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.? I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).????Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.?Sincerely,DebbieNeed a job? Find an employment agency near you. ----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.comContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitContent-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.

Terrie


-----Original Message-----
From: Alta Costew
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!

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I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.

From: Donna Johansen < href="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net" ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!

face=Arial>Ann-Marie,
OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?
Donna > J

From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
Subject: Re: > Let's talk about symptoms!

I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!
It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is > performed.
My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.
Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has > worked.
All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.
Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
Loads of hugs
Ann-Marie         

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray < ymailto="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:
From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 > AM

I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing.
I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.
le="FONT: >> 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Let's talk about > symptoms!

Kelly,
    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 > abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.
    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).
    The worst part is they know about my > blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
 
Sincerely,
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I will definitely come back and let you know what's found and what they do to fix it. Thank you for your support! I know we all come to this site for information, support and hope. I've found all of that when reading posts on this site. I'll share my story. I'm really hpoing for great results! Take care everyone! Kris

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Good luck to you and please, please come back and let us know how you
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i would like to do the questionaire to please.

>
>I would be interested in participating in this as well
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At Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Kristine Lovaas wrote:
>
>Hi Wendy! I'm having surgery on Tuesday, the 3rd of March by Dr. Eric Johnson @ Abbott Northwestern in Minneapolis. He is with Surgical Specialists of Minnesota. His number is 612.863.7770. He's a great doctor. I did a lot of research about him, talked to several other doctors for their opinion and met with him twice. All the feedback has been very positive. He's done many successful adhesions removal surgeries. He said he's done it successfully on 15 nurses @ Abbott alone. I asked him why so many nurses. He said that nurses are more prone to adhesions after having abdominal surgeries because of the lifting they do of patients, etc. I think the fact that these nurses chose him to do their surgeries also speaks to his capabilities since they work with many surgeons in their jobs @ Abbott. I can't wait to have this done. I'll update everyone when I get home about the results. Take care, everyone!  Kris
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Yes Kris, do let us know how you are doing as soon as you are able.  Did
they tell you how long you would be in the hospital? Also, if you work,
how long do they expect you will need to stay home for recovery?

Did Dr.  Johnson discuss any ideas as to how to prevent the adhesions
from returning- like how soon and how much you should move around, and
did he talk about using a specific adhesion barrier? Not too long ago I
watched a TV news report (not local Twin Cities, however) somewhere on
the internet that told about a woman who had not enjoyed eating for
quite some time due to adhesions.  She finally had surgery for the
adhesions and they used Seprafilm- she apparently was doing fine and was
able to enjoy eating again but I don't remember how long it had been
since her surgery- maybe a year but not sure.

Not trying to influence you, but I have read some reports stating that
lycopene 'might' help with adhesions.  It is still mainly just a
'theory' according to Dr.  Andrew Weil, but if you don't mind tomato
juice, what the heck! I'm taking lycopene capsules and also try to drink
some tomato juice every day.  I take other supplements as well- too
numerous to mention and quite expensive but have doubts as to whether
they can dissolve adhesions, but maybe would be more effective at
preventing them if you are fortunate enough to have surgery.  Just a
thought.

Also, I was wondering where you had your colonoscopy done.  I am
thinking about having one after reading your story.  However, back in
the 1990s I had an endoscopy, sigmoidoscopy, barium, and one colonoscopy
and were told they were normal.  I have had only one such exam since my
useless hysterectomy in 1998- a sigmoidoscopy which was probably 7-8
years ago.  The sigmoidoscopy went fine until it got to my lower abdomen
in the bikini area that set off the worst pain in the same area where I
often have experienced it (I still have a nasty scar there from a
myomectomy in 1991) The doctor said 'Does that hurt?' and I nodded.  But
there was absolutely no discussion about the test or why I felt pain
when/where I did.  I was rushed out as usual.

One thing interesting I read about a doctor at one of the Mayo clinics-
not the Minnesota one, either Florida or Arizona.  Anyway, she said that
usually during bariums the doctor leaves the room and does something
else, and then comes back to see if the barium made it through, and if
it did, it is assumed that everything is OK.  She said that one time she
decided to stay and watch the barium as it went through, and she noticed
an area where the fluid slowed down, which alerted her to a potential
problem.  I wonder if any other doctors do this.

So, I'm thinking of maybe going to a place that does only gastro stuff-
like maybe Minnesota Gastroenterology.  There is also a company that
goes by the name Colon and Rectal Associates or something like that.  My
insurance states that I do not need a referral to see a specialist, but
don't know if any clinics may have their own policy of requiring a
referral- which would be a pain since it is so difficult to get
cooperation from anyone.

I have even considered scheduling an appointment with a surgeon myself-
after all I believe they are considered 'specialists'- they come up as a
category on my insurance companies' site- supposedly part of their job
is diagnostic as well as regular surgery.  However, I'm gun-shy as I can
imagine them saying, 'Why are you here? Who sent you here?' To which I
could honestly say, 'I sent me here.  I'm my own doctor and my insurance
does not require a referral to see you anyway!' but of course wouldn't
dare actually say!

Keep in touch!

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>  1) Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)
>    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com
>  2) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out
>    by barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy)
>  3) Re: ADHESIONS digest 923
>    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)
>  4) RE: Dr. Gerhart
>    by "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins" <jenniferw@bellarmine.edu>
>  5) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out
>    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>
>  6) SSI/Disablity
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>  7) RE: SSI/Disablity
>    by Lori OLSON <dumblnddzzy@msn.com>
>  8) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>
>  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>    by teatime47@aol.com
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>==    Subj: Re: Surgery--Would you do it
>again? (POLL)  Date: 2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time  From:
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>The odd thing is I am going to have surgery for  the 10th time an am so
>looking forward to it because I to agree that a even a  little relief is
>better than non.
>
>At Mon, 23 Feb 2009,  carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:
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>>Yes!  Even short lived  relief is worth it to me.
>>
>>Caryn R
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>>
>>For those that have had surgery strictly for  removing the adhesions ...
>>would you do it again?
>>
>>Your  answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery
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>>Thanks,
>>Katie
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>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:25 -0600 (CST)HqP728447@mail.obgyn.net>
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>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain
>specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not
>believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the
>one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop me
>down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would
>not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep
>"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind
>that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visit
>is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any
>other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to
>happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am
>barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is
>the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more
>afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please
>someone send me an e-mail.
>
>At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:
>>
>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a
>>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back
>>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.
>>
>>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some
>>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be
>>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch
>>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more
>>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with
>>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.
>>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like
>>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help
>>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.
>>
>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending
>>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more
>>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to
>>begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we
>>work something out. So far, so good.
>>
>>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably
>>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and
>>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.
>>
>>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live
>>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm
>>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your
>>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he
>>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally
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>Kris,
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>Who's the surgeon in Minneapolis? I'm in MN and looking for a good  surgeon.
>I've already been to The Mayo clinic and the U of M and they were no  help at
>all.
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>Wendy
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>2/22/2009 11:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _klmurray_61@msn.com_
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>I live in New Mexico and have been to MN to Mayo and also the University of 
>MN.  No help at either of these places. It has been several years.
>Hey, by the way, I have a uncle named Ron Peterson that lives in 
>Minneapolis. (Prior Lake)  He isn't a Dr
>>. though.
>Kelly
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: _Kristine Lovaas_ (mailto:krisl1204@yahoo.com) 
>To: _Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS_
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>Was his name Dr. Ron Peterson? I live in MN, had him as an OB/GYN. He did 
>surgery on me 5 years ago for a right side ovarian cyst. It ruptured before  the
>surgery was scheduled, and we had to move the date up. i never had any 
>pelvic pain until after that surgery, in spite of having an appendectomy in  1973,
>2 C-sections in 1977 and 1978, and ectopic pregnancy in 1986 and a  partial
>hysterectomy in 1991. i started having the awful pain and nausea that  all of us
>go through about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a colonoscopy 2 years ago  that took
>the doctor an hour and half to complete because of adhesions. i'd  never even
>heard of the the condition prior to that. i'll make the long  medical saga
>short. After so many tests to rule out everything else, i'm  having surgery on
>Tuesday, March 3rd in Minneapolis to have adhesions removed.  I've researched
>the surgeon and had conversations with several doctors who  allspeak to his
>success. I'm really hoping for good results. I've read so much  on this site and
>haven't responded before. Take care, everyone. i wish you all  pain tolerant
>days! Kris
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>I had surgery with Dr. Gerhart about 1 1/2 ago.  Everything went =
>smoothly.  He cut adhesions between my liver and dueodenum(sp?) and took =
>biopsies of several spots on my diaprhagm and bowels.  He took pictures =
>of the surgery and spots all over my insides.  Turns out it was endo =
>everywhere.  Before surgery it kind of felt like I had a lapband =
>preventing me from eating anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and =
>process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very =
>professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  =
>I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well.
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>________________________________ From: adhesions@adhesions.org on behalf of Marlene Wheeler Sent: Tu=
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>________________________________e 2/24/2009 5:54 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Subject: RE: Dr. Gerhart
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>Kim,
>I= _____________________e 2/24/2009 5:54 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of had surgery with Dr Gerhart about 2 1/2 years ago.  I highly recommend =
>him. He's a wonderful Doctor, and is very up on the new barriers etc. I =
>had a go around with surgeons here, on who tried to help me and made =
>things worse. Two others who wouldn't touch me. Meanwhile I was getting =
>sicker and sicker. I finally had enough and through this web site and a =
>lot or research I found Dr G. ( I wish I had found him about a year =
>earlier!!but??) Anyway by the time I got to him I was in pretty bad =
>shape. The bad part was I had bowel that had tried to atrophy because of =
>the docs here not doing anything, so I'll always have to watch what I =
>eat. The good part is he was able to help. I'm doing a lot better. I =
>believe he saved my life. (My right side was a total mess, almost lost =
>ureter/rt kidney because of the mess). I still keep in touch with him in =
>case I every have to go back. As you know these things can come back. I =
>thank God everyday that I found him, otherwise I wouldn't be here to =
>enjoy my children, and actually have a life.
>Good Luck
>Marlene
>I also know a couple other people who have had surgery with him, with =
>good results. They don't go on this site. I don't want to give out =
>names. All I can say is if anyone can help you, I'm sure he will.
>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:29:16 -0600
>> From: kkajark@aol.com
>> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
>> Subject: Dr. Gerhart
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>> I would really like to hear from anyone who have had surgery with Dr.
>> Gerhart. I sent my records to him to review but this will be my 10th
>> surgery. As some of you have pointed out I should not go into surgery
>> lightly. I want to make the right decision. My previous Dr could not
>> do the surgery because of the density of the adhesions so I need a =
>very
>> good experienced doc who will not damage any of my organs. Thanks for
>> your input.
>> Kim
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>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:38:22 -esions.org=3D0ASubject: Re: Dear Chery= adhesions@adh=
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>You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in th==
>
>e Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery =
>in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doc=
>tors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am =
>so tired at being looked at like a addict.
>
>I feel we are like overweig=
>ht people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losin=
>g weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  M=
>y friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she c=
>ould not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out=
>of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other thi==
>
>ngs.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She =
>ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control.
>
>I fee=
>l like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions. =
>Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and p=
>robably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that th=
>at adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  T=
>here are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Fin=
>ding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack. 
>
>I am g==
>
>oing through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get =
>out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they=
>just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease.
>=
>
>Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk=
>.
>
>Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end.
>Alta
>
>=
>
>________________________________
>From: Cuddy =
>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS t;
>________________________________
>From: Cuddy =
>>__________________________
>From: Cuddy =
>
>To:
>ent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM
= =0AS==
>__________________________
>From: Cuddy =<>Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sa=
>lly/pain meds worked out
>
>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with t=
>he PID.  My pain
>specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I o=
>riginally did not
>believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain=
>specialist (the
>one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percoc=
>et and drop me
>down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a litt=
>le, I would
>not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he canno=
>t keep
>"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep=
>in mind
>that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My ne=
>xt visit
>is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there =
>is any
>other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is g=
>oing to
>happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am=
>
>barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is=
>
>the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am mo=
>re
>afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pl=
>ease
>someone send me an e-mail.
>
>At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wro==
>
>te:
>>
>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was=
>too for a
>>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had dec=
>ided to cut back
>>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened wa=
>s pain, pain, pain.
>>
>>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worke=
>d yet. I wish there was some
>>way you could ommunicate with your present =
>doctor that it doesn't have to be
>>either this or that. I'm trying a comb=
>ination of opiates, including the patch
>>and oxycontin, plus a few other =
>milder ones. The point is not to take more
>>pills or medication. The poin=
>t is to be pain free or relatively pain free with
>>the minimum quanitiy o==
>
>f medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.
>>If I'm feeling in=
>so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like
>>screaming I take =
>a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help
>>tremendous=
>ly. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.
>>
>>Is there any w=
>ay you can get this across to your doctor, without offending
>>him. Mine g=
>ets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more
>>compassio=
>nate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to
>>begin=
>to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we
>>=
>work something out. So far, so good.
>>
>>Your doctor unfortunately sound==
>
>s a little childish, sorry, but you probably
>>already think this. He shou=
>ldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and
>>he should be aware t=
>hat extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.
>>
>>We're not =
>in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live
>>somew=
>hat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm
>>r=
>eading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your=
>
>>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it=
>, he
>>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally
>>
>--
>Dr.Cuddy
>==
>sions.org/forums/mess=
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>
>You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doctors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am so tired at being looked at like a addict.
> 
>I feel we are like overweight people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losing weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  My friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she could not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other things.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control.
> 
>I feel like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions.  Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and probably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that that adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  There are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Finding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack. 
> 
>I am going through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease.
> 
>Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk.
> 
>Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end.
>Alta
>
>From: Cuddy <barkbark@cox.net>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AMSubject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked outI have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My painspecialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did notbelieve in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (theone that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop medown to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I wouldnot get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mindthat it takes a referral to
>get into one of these clinics) My next visitis in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is anyother way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going tohappen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am<A href="mail
>to:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:barkbark@cox.net">barkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this isthe price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am moreafraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pleasesomeone send me an e-mail.At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.>>I've tried mind over matter, but
>it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to>begin
>to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we>work something out. So far, so good.>>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.>>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally>--Dr.CuddyTo remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please
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>How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband=
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>Alta 
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>Hi there, hope you are doing well today.  I am on SSI & have been for abo=
>ut 7 year's now. I applied the first time by myself & was turned down. Then=
>I reapplied a second time & was turned down then also. The third time I go=
>t me a lawyer that specializes in SSI & let him reapply for me, within 6 =
>months I had my SSI.  I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be able=
>to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori
>
>Lori Olson
>
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>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600
>From: racostew@sbcglobal.net
>To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
>Subject: SSI/Disablity
>
>Hi,
>
>How many of you are on or applied for disability?  My husband thinks I sho=
>uld but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, di=
>d you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wondering
>Alta =
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>ond time &; was turned down then also. The third time I got me a lawye=
>r that specializes in SSI &; let him reapply for me, within 6 months=
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>
>e to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori=
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>usband thinks I should but I ;have a feeling I would be turned down.&=
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>Daglobal.net> To: >
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>I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had bu=
>t the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.
>
>=
>
>________________________________=0AFrom: Donna Johansen <donnajoha==0Ansen@te= ____________________=0AFrom: Donna Johansen <donnajoha==>=0ATo: Multiple =
>me problem.
>
>=
>
>________________________________recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail=3D
>.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Monday, Febru= =
>
>________________________________recipients of list ADHESary 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
>Subject: RE: Let=
>'s talk about symptoms!
>
>Ann-Marie,
>OK, you are the first person h=
>ere who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with si=
>tting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not =
>found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better =
>but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so =
>that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after ev=
>ery surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me =
>when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do yo=
>u feel that pain now?
>Donna J
>
>_________________ns.org" ymailto=3D"mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org<= R>>u feel that pain now?
>Donna J
>
>_________________/A> [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of==
>
>Donna J
>
>________________________________
>=
>From:
>annmarie bluett
>Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM= onna J
>
>________________________________
>=
>Fr
>To: Multiple=
>recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>=
>
>I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY=
>SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK=
>recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post op=
>p 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergen=
>cy situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and =
>now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God? =
> HELL no"!
>It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to g=
>o and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.
>=
>My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to t=
>he point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was viol=
>ent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdom=
>en which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and sto=
>od too long.  Sex was and is very painful.
>Now I know that my doc went =
>in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that =
>because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as ==
>
>everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my append=
>ix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was f=
>rightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and whe=
>n I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.
>All I know =
>is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises=
>what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful=
>for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative=
> is not acceptable.
>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning =
>somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
>Loads of hug=
>s Ann-Marie         
>
>--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Mu=
>rray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:
>
>From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.=
>com>
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>To: "Multiple recipients o=
>f list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>Date: Saturday, 21 February,=
>2009, 4:22 AM
>
>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a l=
>ife or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage=
>and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
>Some times I think m=
>aybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends u=
>p passing.
>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I real
>>ize they >don't s=
>it higher then we do.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: BBLDEB@aol.co=
>m
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Sent: Friday, February 20=
>, 2009 8:07 PM
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>Kelly,
>  =
>  I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or m=
>ore before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I==
>
>have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 o=
>r more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a te=
>aspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my =
>surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement befor=
>e you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever ans=
>wered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal sur=
>geries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again=
>is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I hav=
>e no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable =
>in medical /prescription areas.
>    It is unbelievable what some =
>doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out o=
>r can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if =
>they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to dea=
>l with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a mo=
>ment, sorry).
>    The worst part is they know about my blockages,=
>but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation bef=
>ore he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain=
>is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the on==
>
>ly relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have=
>4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
>==
>A0   Goo=
>d luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
> 
>Sincerely=
>,
>Debbie
>
>________________________________
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>I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.
>
>From: Donna Johansen <donnajohansen@telus.net>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PMSubject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!
>Ann-Marie,
>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?
>Donna J
>
>From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluettSent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONSSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!
>It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.
>My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.
>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.
>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.
>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
>Loads of hugs
>Ann-Marie         --- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:
>From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM
>
>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing.
>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.
>
><D >IV style
>>="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
>From: <A title=mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com href="mail
>to:BBLDEB@aol.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com">BBLDEB@aol.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>Kelly,
>    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.
>    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).
>    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
>    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
> 
>Sincerely,
>Debbie
>
>Need a job? Find an employment agency near you.
>
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>I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.
>
>Terrie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alta Costew
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>I have the same thing.? Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.
>
>From: Donna Johansen
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
>Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>Ann-Marie,
>
>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.? This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.? Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.? I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.??Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. ?Do you feel that pain now?
>
>Donna J
>
>From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett
>Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM
>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>I cant belive what I am reading.? OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
>
>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.? The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.? Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God???HELL no"!
>
>It?seems so different here in the UK - we dont have?to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.
>
>My symptoms?were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it?was violent and watery.? I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen?if? I?either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.? Sex was and is very painful.
>
>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want?to do any more damage to my internal?organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.? He did?put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.
>
>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.? I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative?is not acceptable.
>
>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
>
>Loads of hugs
>
>Ann-Marie?????????
>
>--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray  wrote:
>
>From: Kelly Murray
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM
>
>I know what you mean.? How do we know if it is a life or death situation.? Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
>
>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing.
>
>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.? I realize the
>>y don't sit higher then we do.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: BBLDEB@aol.com
>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>
>Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM
>
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>Kelly,
>
>????I too have blockages.? Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.? Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.? And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.? And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.? My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"? To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.? They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the?only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.? Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!? And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.
>
>????It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.? I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.? They cause them every time they do surgery!? (Venting for a moment, sorry).
>
>????The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.? Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.? When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.? I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
>
>????Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
>
>?
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Debbie
>
>Need a job? Find an employment agency near you.
>
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>I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.
>
>Terrie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
> #AOLMsgPart_2_eb176fcf-8059-4cb7-ace3-62f9b507be9d DIV {margin:0px;}
>
>I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.
>
>From: Donna Johansen <donnajohansen@telus.net>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
>Subject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>Ann-Marie,
>
>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?
>
>Donna J
>
>From: <A href="mail
>to:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluett
>Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
>
>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!
>
>It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.
>
>My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.
>
>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.
>
>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.
>
>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
>
>Loads of hugs
>
>Ann-Marie         
>
>--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:
>
>From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM
>
><div id==
>yiv1927649460>
>
>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
>
>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing.
>
>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then > we do.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: BBLDEB@aol.com
>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>
>Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM
>
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>
>Kelly,
>
>    I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.
>
>    It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).
>
>    The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
>
>    Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
>
> 
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Debbie
>
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>
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>Hi Wendy! I'm having surgery on Tuesday, the 3rd of March by Dr. Eric Johnson @ Abbott Northwestern in Minneapolis. He is with Surgical Specialists of Minnesota. His number is 612.863.7770. He's a great doctor. I did a lot of research about him, talked to several other doctors for their opinion and met with him twice. All the feedback has been very positive. He's done many successful adhesions removal surgeries. He said he's done it successfully on 15 nurses @ Abbott alone. I asked him why so many nurses. He said that nurses are more prone to adhesions after having abdominal surgeries because of the lifting they do of patients, etc. I think the fact that these nurses chose him to do their surgeries also speaks to his capabilities since they work with many surgeons in their jobs @ Abbott. I
> can't wait to have this done. I'll update everyone when I get home about the results. Take care, everyone!  Kris
>
>From: Adhesions Society <adhesions@adhesions.org>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:19:28 PMSubject: ADHESIONS digest 938                ADHESIONS Digest 938Topics covered in this issue include:  1) Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)    by WendyEbbe3@aol.com  2) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out    by barkbark@cox.net (Cuddy)  3) Re: ADHESIONS digest 923   
> by WendyEbbe3@aol.com (Wendy)  4) RE: Dr. Gerhart    by "Sinski, Jennifer B. Blevins" <jenniferw@bellarmine.edu>  5) Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>  6) SSI/Disablity    by Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>  7) RE: SSI/Disablity    by Lori OLSON <dumblnddzzy@msn.com>  8) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!    by Alta Costew <<A
> href="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net">racostew@sbcglobal.net>  9) Re: Let's talk about symptoms!    by teatime47@aol.com----------------------------------------------------------aol.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:teatime47@aol.com">teatime47@aol.com">----------------------------------------------------------href=3D"mailto:teatime47@aol.com" ime47@aol.com---------------------------------------------------------- ymailto="mailto:teatime47@aol.com">teatime47@aol.com---------------5 Feb 2009 08:47:40 ESTFrom: teatime47@aol.com---------------5="mailto:WendyEbbe3@aol.comTo">WendyEbbe3@aol.comTo: adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)Message-ID: <d25.45ecd60d.36d6a5fc@aol.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
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>===Original  Message========    Subj: Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)  Date: 2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _kkajark@aol.com_ (mailto:kkajark@aol.com)  To: <A href="mailto:_adhesions@mail.obgyn.net"
> ymailto="mailto:_adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">_adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    The odd thing is I am going to have surgery for  the 10th time an am solooking forward to it because I to agree that a even a  little relief isbetter than non.At Mon, 23 Feb 2009,  carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:>>Yes!  Even short lived  relief is worth it to me.>>Caryn R>>>-----  Original Message ----->From: "Katie"  <katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com>>To: "Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS" <<A
> href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>>Sent: Friday, February 6,  2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern>Subject: Surgery--Would you  do it again? (POLL)>>For those that have had surgery strictly for  removing the adhesions ...>would you do it again?>>Your  answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery>for  mine.  I'm just  curious.>>Thanks,>Katie>>tm>htmTo  remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto  the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htmp.s. for  the web forum version
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> face=Webdings color=#ff0000 size=2>=========</FONT> <TABLE style="BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0 1px solid; FON=T-SIZE: 10pt; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0 1px sol=id; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e0e0e0" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0>  <TBODY>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD vAlign=top width="10%">Subj:</TD>    <TD><B>Re: Surgery--Would you do it again? (POLL)</B></TD></TR>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD vAlign=top width== "10%">Date:</TD>    <TD>2/22/2009 10:22:20 P.M. Central Standard Time</TD></TR>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD vAlign=top noWrap
> width="10%">From:</TD>    <TD><A title=mailto:kkajark@aol.com       href="mailto:kkajark@aol.com">kkajark@aol.com</A></TD></TR>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD vAlign=top noWrap width="10%">To:</TD>    <TD><A title=mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net       href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net"><A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net"
> ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net</A><=/TD></TR>  <TR class=aolmailheader>    <TD bgColor=#d0d0d0 colSpan=2>Sent on:    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>The odd thing is I am going to have surgery fo=r the 10th time an am so<BR>looking forward to it because I to agree that a ev=en a little relief is<BR>better than non.<BR><BR>At Mon, 23 Feb 2009, carynlruzich@comcast.net wrote:<BR>><BR>>Yes!  Even short lived relief is worth it to me.<BR>><BR>>Caryn R<BR>><BR>>& >gt;----- Original Message -----<BR>>From: "Katie" <<A
> href="mailto:katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com">katie_scarlett67@hotmail.com><BR>>To: "Multiple recipients of list= ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><BR>>Sent: Friday, February 6,= 2009 10:43:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>>Subject: Surgery--Would=you do it again? (POLL)<BR>><BR>>For those that have had surgery strictly =for removing the adhesions ...<BR>>would you do it again?<BR>><BR>>Your= answers will not influence the fact that I am about to have surgery<BR>>f=or mine.  I'm
> just curious.<BR>><BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Katie<BR>><BR>>tm<BR>>htm<BR=><BR><BR>To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please go<BR>t=o the unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm<BR>p.s.=for the web forum version see http://http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm<BR></FONT><br/><font style="co=lor:black;font:normal 10pt arial,san-serif;"> <hr style="margin-top:10px"/=><b>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. <a href="<A href="http://pr.atwola.com/pro="
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>ank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm----------------ark@cox.net (Cuddy)To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked outMessage-ID: <200902251752.n1PHqP728447@mail.obgyn.net>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My painspecialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did notbelieve in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (theone that understood I was in pain)take me off the percocet and drop medown to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I wouldnot get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain. 
> (Keep in mindthat it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My next visitis in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is anyother way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going tohappen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I ambarkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this isthe price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am moreafraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Pleasesomeone send me an e-mail.At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain,
> pain.>>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch>and oxycontin, plus a few other milder ones. The point is not to take more>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more>compassionate man. Everytime, he
> starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to>begin to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we>work something out. So far, so good.>>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.>>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally>--Dr.CuddyTo remove yourself from the <A href==
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>"mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.netSubject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923Message-ID: <200902251753.n1PHrr930306@mail.obgyn.net>Kris,Who's
> the surgeon in Minneapolis? I'm in MN and looking for a good  surgeon. I've already been to The Mayo clinic and the U of M and they were no  help at all.Wendy========Original  Message====== ===    Subj: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923  Date: 2/22/2009 11:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: _klmurray_61@msn.com_ (mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com)  To: _adhesions@mail.obgyn.net_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent on:    I live in New Mexico and have been to MN to Mayo and also the University of  MN.  No help at either of
> these places. It has been several years.Hey, by the way, I have a uncle named Ron Peterson that lives in  Minneapolis. (Prior Lake) 
>>; He isn't a Dr. though.Kelly----- Original Message ----- From: _Kristine Lovaas_ (mailto:krisl1204@yahoo.com)  To: _Multiple recipients of list  ADHESIONS_ (mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net)  Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:46  PMSubject: Re: ADHESIONS digest 923Was his name Dr. Ron Peterson? I live in MN, had him as an OB/GYN. He did  surgery on me 5 years ago for a right side ovarian cyst. It ruptured before  the surgery was scheduled, and we had to move the date up. i never had any  pelvic pain until after that surgery, in spite of having an
> appendectomy in  1973, 2 C-sections in 1977 and 1978, and ectopic pregnancy in 1986 and a  partial hysterectomy in 1991. i started having the awful pain and nausea that  all of us go through about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a colonoscopy 2 years ago  that took the doctor an hour and half to complete because of adhesions. i'd  never even heard of the the condition prior to that. i'll make the long  medical saga short. After so many tests to rule out everything else, i'm  having surgery on Tuesday, March 3rd in Minneapolis to have adhesions removed.  I've researched the surgeon and had conversations with several doctors who  allspeak to his success. I'm really hoping for good results. I've read so much  on this site and haven't responded before. Take care, everyone. i wish you all  pain tolerant days! KrisTo remove yourself from the <A
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>R>------------------------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05mine.edu>To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>Subject: RE: Dr. GerhartMessage-ID: &= ----------------Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:56:25 -05mine.edu>To: <14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu"
> ymailto="mailto:14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu">14559730A0F4484981C76803ECD871E8959020@esst.bellarmine.edu>Content-class: urn:content-classes:messageMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/mixed;    boundary="----_=_NextPart_0;    charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableI had surgery with Dr. Gerhart about 1 1/2 ago.  Everything went =smoothly.  He cut adhesions between my liver and dueodenum(sp?) and took =biopsies of several spots on my diaprhagm and bowels.  He took pictures =of the surgery and spots all over my insides.  Turns out it was endo =everywhere.  Before surgery it kind of felt like I had a lapband =preventing me from eating
> anything hardly.  After surgery, I can eat and =process food fine.  The adhesions were causing problems.  He is very =professional as are is staff and the  hospital was nice to me as well.  =I would recommend him and he took my insurance as well.________________________________From: adhesions@adhesions.=3D
>______________________________From:  on behalf of Marlen= y insurance as well.________________________________From: adhesions@adhesioe WheelerSent: Tue 2/24/2009 5:54 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONSSubject: RE: Dr. GerhartKim,I had surgery with Dr Gerhart about 2 1/2 years ago.  I highly recommend =him. He's a wonderful Doctor, and is very up on the new barriers etc. I =had a go around with surgeons here, on who tried to help me and made =things worse. Two others who wouldn't touch me. Meanwhile I was getting =sicker and sicker. I finally had enough and through this
> web site and a =lot or research I found Dr G. ( I wish I had found him about a year êrlier!!but??) Anyway by the time I got to him I was in pretty bad =shape. The bad part was I had bowel that had tried to atrophy because of =the docs here not doing anything, so I'll always have to watch what I êt. The good part is he was able to help. I'm doing a lot better. I ¾lieve he saved my life. (My right side was a total mess, almost lost =ureter/rt kidney because of the mess). I still keep in touch with him in Êse I every have to go back. As you know these things can come back. I =thank God everyday that I found him, otherwise I wouldn't be here to =enjoy my children, and actually have a life. Good Luck Marlene I also know a couple other people who have had surgery with him, with == good results. They don't go on this site. I don't want to give out =names. All I can say is if anyone can
> help you, I'm sure he will.> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:29:16 -0600> From: kkajark@aol.com> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net> Subject: Dr. Gerhart> > I would really like to hear from anyone who have had surgery with Dr.> Gerhart. I sent my records to him to review but this will be my 10th> surgery. As some of you have pointed out I should not go into surgery> lightly. I want to make the right decision. My previous Dr could not> do the surgery because of the density of the adhesions so I need a =very> good experienced doc who will not damage any of my organs. Thanks for> your input.> Kim> > > To remove yourself from the <A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org"
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>ns.org/forums/message.htm------------------------hesions@adhesions.orgSubject" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject">adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked outMessage-ID:<<A href="mailto:573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com"
> ymailto="mailto:573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com">573520.98293.qm@web80005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-415966843-1235587102=:98293"--0-415966843-1235587102=:98293Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableYou are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in th== =
>e Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery =in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doc=tors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am =so tired at being looked at like a addict.
>
>I feel we are like overweig=ht people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losin=g weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  M=y friend went through this.  Testing showed she
> had no problems but she c=ould not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered some tests out=of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other thi=ngs.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She =ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control.
>
>I fee=l like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions. =Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and p=robably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that th=at adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  T=here are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Fin=ding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack. 
>
>I am g=oing through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get =out of this funk but can't.  I have gone to two doctors
> for help but they=just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease.
>=
>Please feel free to contact me at racostew@yahoo.com if you need to talk=.
>
>Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end.
>Alta
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>Alta
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>From: Cuddy <>=
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <>From: Cuddy <>=
>To: Mbgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>S=ent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM
>Subject: Re: Dear Cheryl/Sa=lly/pain meds worked out
>
>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with t=he PID.  My pain
>specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I o=riginally did not
>believe in pain medication until
> now.  I had the pain=specialist (the
>one that understood I was in pain)take me off the percoc=et and drop me
>down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a litt=le, I would
>not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he canno=t keep
>"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep=in mind
>that it takes a referral to get into one of these clinics) My ne=xt visit
>is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there =is any
>other way to deal with this, please let me know.==
>A0 And, what is g=oing to
>happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am==0Abarkbark@cox.net).  I feel as though politics are involved and this is=
>the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am mo=re
>afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of
> dying.  Plêse
>someone send me an e-mail.
>
>At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wro=te:
>>
>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was=too for a
>>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had dec=ided to cut back
>>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened wa== s pain, pain, pain.
>>
>>I've tried mind over matter, but it hasn't worke=d yet. I wish there was some
>>way you could ommunicate with your present =doctor that it doesn't have to be
>>either this or that. I'm trying a comb=ination of opiates, including the patch
>>and oxycontin, plus a few other =milder ones. The point is not to take more
>>pills or medication. The poin=t is to be pain free or relatively pain free with
>>the minimum quanitiy o=f medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.
>>If I'm feeling in=so so pain, I take a less potent
> pill, If I feel like
>>screaming I take =a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help
>>tremendous=ly. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.
>>
>>Is there any w=ay you can get this across to your doctor, without offending
>>him. Mine g=ets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more
>>compassio=nate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to
>>begin=to get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we
>>=work something out. So far, so good.
>>
>>Your doctor unfortunately sound=s a little childish, sorry, but you probably
>>already think this. He shou=ldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and
>>he should be aware t=hat extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.
>>
>>We're not =in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to
> live
>>somew=hat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm
>>rêding the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your=
>>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it=, he
>>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally
>>
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>Dr.Cuddy
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>p.s. for the web forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/mess=age.htm--0-415966843-1235587102=:98293Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii<html><head><style
> type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV>You are not alone.  It's not just in Vegas, it's everwhere.  I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and am in the same boat.  After my last surgery in January, the pain came back right away.  I am now dealing with the doctors not knowing what to do with me since I should not be in pain.  I am so tired at being looked at like a addict.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I feel we are like overweight people.  The ones that watch their diet and exercise but are not losing weight.  Doctors look at them like they are lying and placid them.  My friend went through this.  Testing showed she had no problems but she could not lose weight.  She switched doctors and he ordered
> some tests out of the ordinary that found she had sluggish metabilism and a few other things.  Once a doctor went outside the norm a solution was found.  She ended up losing 60 pounds by getting the problems under control.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I feel like we have a cancer attacking us.  The cancer being our adhesions.  Our problem is that there are not enough doctors who know about them and probably not many being educated in adhesions.  Doctors are taught that that adhesions don't cause pain and maybe if they do otc pain meds help.  There are probably a handful of doctors in the world that understand.  Finding those doctors are like finding a needle in a hay stack. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I am going through a HUGE depression right now.  I am trying everything to get out of this funk
> but can't.  I have gone to two doctors for help but they just don't seem to understand.  Adhesions are a multifacited disease.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Please feel free to contact me at <A href="mailto:racostew@yahoo.com">racostew@yahoo.com</A> if you need to talk.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Sorry for the rant all.  I am getting at my wits end.</DIV><DIV>Alta<BR></DIV><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif"><BR><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: lucida console, sans-serif"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><HR SIZE=1><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
> bold">From:</SPAN></B> Cuddy <barkbark@cox.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <<A href="mail
>to:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:54:19 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Dear Cheryl/Sally/pain meds worked out<BR></FONT><BR>I have Fitz-Hugh-Curtis Syndrome along with the PID.  My pain<BR>specialist: "CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY I AM IN PAIN!!" I originally did not<BR>believe in pain medication until now.  I had the pain specialist (the<BR>one that understood I was in
> pain)take me off the percocet and drop me<BR>down to Lortab 10/500 because I figured if I suffer a little, I would<BR>not get "hooked." The last visit, the doctor told me he cannot keep<BR>"giving me pills" because he cannot see why I am in pain.  (Keep in mind<BR>that it takes a referral toget into one of these clinics) My next visit<BR>is in March.  The reason why I am writing is because if there is any<BR>other way to deal with this, please let me know.  And, what is going to<BR>happen when they take me off of the Lortab all of a sudden? (I am<BR><A href="mailto:barkbark@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:barkbark@cox.net">barkbark@cox.net</A>).  I
> feel as though politics are involved and this is<BR>the price I have to pay because "Las Vegas" has a reputation.  I am more<BR>afraid of that pain comming back more than I am afraid of dying.  Please<BR>someone send me an e-mail.<BR><BR>At Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Sally Grigg wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear CHERYL, I'm sorry you're going through such problems, I was too for a<BR>>little while, I have a wonderful local doctor, but he had decided to cut back<BR>>on my meds to see what happened, well, what happened was pain, pain, pain.<BR>><BR>>I've tried mind over matter, butit hasn't worked yet. I wish there was some<BR>>way you could ommunicate with your present doctor that it doesn't have to be<BR>>either this or that. I'm trying a combination of opiates, including the patch<BR>>and oxycontin, plus a
> few other milder ones. The point is not to take more<BR>>pills or medication. The point is to be pain free or relatively pain free with<BR>>the minimum quanitiy of medication. When you mix them, it works best for me.<BR>>If I'm feeling in so so pain, I take a less potent pill, If I feel like<BR>>screaming I take a very strong pill. I'm on the patch continuously and it help<BR>>tremendously. But it needs to be supplemented with other pills.<BR>><BR>>Is there any way you can get this across to your doctor, without offending<BR>>him. Mine gets kidney stones, and I really believe it has made him a more<BR>>compassionate man. Everytime, he starts to withdraw my meds, and I start to<BR>>beginto get upset, I believe he remembers his pain and listens to me and we<BR>>work something out. So far, so
> good.<BR>><BR>>Your doctor unfortunately sounds a little childish, sorry, but you probably<BR>>already think this. He shouldn't be emotionally attached to his diagnosis, and<BR>>he should be aware that extreme pain needs to be treated in any way possible.<BR>><BR>>We're not in the way of clear lives with no medication, we just want to live<BR>>somewhat normally without laying in bed all day and moaning and crying. I'm<BR>>reading the book, Full Catastrophy Living, and So far, so good. Keep up your<BR>>good spirits. Maybe if you wrote him a letter with the board editing it, he<BR>>would understand. Good luck., Love, Sally<BR>><BR><BR>--<BR>Dr.Cuddy<BR><BR>To remove yourself from the <A href="mailto:<A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org"
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>How many of you are on or applied for disability?   My husband=thinks I should but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you h=ave applied, did you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help? =Just wondering
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> quoted-printableHi there, hope you are doing well today.  I am on SSI & have been for abo=ut 7 year's now. I applied the first time by myself & was turned down. Then=I reapplied a second time & was turned down then also. The third time I go=t me a lawyer that specializes in SSI & let him reapply for me, within 6 =months I had my SSI.  I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be able=to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....LoriLori Olson EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:37 -0600From: <A href="mailto:racostew@sbcglobal.net" ymailto==
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> SSI/DisablityHi, How many of you are on or applied for disability?  My husband thinks I sho=uld but I have a feeling I would be turned down.  If you have applied, di=d you do it on your own?  Did you have a lawyer help?  Just wonderingAlta =--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<html><head><style>.hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px}body.hmmessage{font-size: 10pt;font-family:Verdana}</style></head><body class='hmmessage'><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=4>Hi there, hope you are doing well t=oday. ; I am on SSI &; have been for about 7 year's now. I applií the first time by myself &; was turned down. Then I reapplied a
> sec=ond time &; was turned down then also. The third time I got me a lawye=r that specializes in SSI &; let him reapply for me, within 6 months=I had my SSI. ; I really do think you need to get a lawyer to be abl=e to complete this successfully. Good Luck in your quest....Lori</FONT><BR>=<BR><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Lori Olson</SPAN> <BR><BR><BR><BR><TABLE style="BORDER-TOP: black 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-FA=MILY: 'Segoe UI',Tahoma,san-serif"><TBODY><TR><TD><A style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #0184cb; TEXT-DECORATION: none" =href="http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood="><IMG style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE:
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>2C n=ew york, times, serif"><DIV>Hi,</DIV><DIV> ;</DIV><DIV>How many of you are on or applied for disability? ; ; My h=usband thinks I should but I ;have a feeling I would be turned down.&=nbsp; If you have applied, did you do it on your own? ; ;Di=d you have a lawyer help? ; Just wondering</DIV><DIV>Alta ;</DIV></DIV></body></html>=--_2d896152-3a28-42d9-8924-2e188c37885a_--To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at <A href="http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm"
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> charset=iso-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableI have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had bu=t the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.
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>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail=.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM
>Subject: RE: Let='s talk about symptoms!
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>Ann-Marie,
>OK, you are the first person h=ere who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with si=tting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not =found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better =but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so =that I have to
> be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after ev=ery surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me =when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do yo=u feel that pain now?
>Donna J
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>Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM
>To: Multiple=recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
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>
>I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY=SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.
>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK=recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post op=p 1 week
> now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergen=cy situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and =now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God? = HELL no"!
>It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to g=o and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.
>=My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to t=he point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was viol=ent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdom=en which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and sto=od too long.  Sex was and is very painful.
>Now I know that my doc went =in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that ¾cause he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as =everything was
> stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my append=ix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was f=rightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and whe=n I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.==
>0AAll I know =is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises=what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful=for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative= is not acceptable.
>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning =somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day
>Loads of hug=s
>Ann-Marie         
>
>--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Mu=rray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:
> From: Kelly Murray
> <klmurray_61@msn.=com>
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!
>To: "Multiple recipients o=f list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>
>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 09, 4:22 AM
>
>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a l=ife or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage=and it seems like someone else that was famous did.
>Some times I think m=aybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends u=p passing.
>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't s== >it higher then we do.=0
>>A----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Friday, February 20=, 2009 8:07 PM
>Subject: Re: Let's talk about
> symptoms!
>Kelly,
>  =  I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or m=ore before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I=have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 o=r more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a te=aspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my =surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement befor=e you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever ans=wered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal sur=geries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again=is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I hav=e no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable =in medical /prescription areas.
>    It is
> unbelievable what some =doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out o=r can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if == they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to dea=l with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a mo=ment, sorry).
>    The worst part is they know about my blockages,=but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation bef=ore he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain=is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the on=ly relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have=4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).
>    Goo=d luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.
> 
>Sincerely=,
>Debbie
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>lt;html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV>I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.<BR></DIV><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif"><BR><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"><FONT face=Tahoma size==
>2><HR SIZE=1><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Donna Johansen <<A href="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net"
> ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR></FONT><BR><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Ann-Marie,</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This
> was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Donna J</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><HR tabIndex=-1><FONT face=Tahoma size==
>2><B>From:</B> adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:<A
> href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>annmarie bluett<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><DIV></DIV><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><DIV>I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.</DIV><DIV>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery?
> No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!</DIV><DIV>It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.</DIV><DIV>My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.</DIV><DIV>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask
> if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.</DIV><DIV>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.</DIV><DIV>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day</DIV><DIV>Loads of hugs</DIV><DIV>Ann-Marie         <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <I><<A
> href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com" ymailto== "mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Kelly Murray <<A href==
>"mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com><BR>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<BR>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <<A href="mail
>to:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><BR>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AM<BR><BR><DIV id=yiv1927649460><STYLE></STYLE><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #800080; FONT-FAMILY: Perpetua"><DIV>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee
> brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.</DIV><DIV>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. </DIV><DIV>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE dir== ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><DIV style="FONT: 10p >t ar
>>ial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com"><A
> href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com">BBLDEB@aol.com</A> </DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS</A> </DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM</DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's talk about symptoms!</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Perpetua color=#800080
> size=4><DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Kelly,</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3
> weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of
> pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4></FONT></STRONG> </DIV><DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Sincerely,</FONT></STRONG></DIV><DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Debbie</FONT></STRONG></DIV></FONT><BR><FONT style="FONT: 10pt arial,; COLOR: black"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">Need a job? <A title=<A
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>"http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Find an employment agency near you</A>.</FONT> <DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>--0-802279966-1235588547=:18277--To remove yourself from the adhesions@adhesions.org mailing list please goto the unsubscribe form at <A
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>lank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums//forums/message.htm---------------ef=" target=_blank>http://www.adhesions.org/forums/message.htm---------------ef=3D"mailto:teatime47@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:teatime47@aol.com">teatime47@aol.comTo: adhesions@adhesions.orgSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!Message-ID: <8CB659D48015F6A-258-15FD@WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> boundary="--------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com"----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.comContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitContent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.Terrie-----Original Message-----From: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pmSubject: Re: Let's talk about
> symptoms!I have the same thing.? Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.From: Donna Johansen <<A href==
>"mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net" ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PMSubject: RE: Let's talk about symptoms!Ann-Marie,OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.? This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.? Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping
> pills.? I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.??Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery. ?Do you feel that pain now?Donna JFrom: <A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org" ymailto="mail
>to:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of annmarie bluettSent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONSSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!I cant belive what I am reading.? OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.? The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an
> emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.? Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God???HELL no"!It?seems so different here in the UK - we dont have?to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is performed.My symptoms?were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it?was violent and watery.? I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen?if? I?either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.? Sex was and is very painful.Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want?to do any more damage to my internal?organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was
> frightened he may damage it.? He did?put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has worked.All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.? I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative?is not acceptable.Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another dayLoads of hugsAnn-Marie?????????--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com> wrote:From: Kelly Murray <klmurray_61@msn.com>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <<A
> href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22 AMI know what you mean.? How do we know if it is a life or death situation.? Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.? I reali
>>ze they don't sit higher then we do. >----- Original Message ----- From: BBLDEB@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PMSubject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!Kelly,????I too have blockages.? Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a
> bowel movement.? Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.? And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.? And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.? My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"? To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.? They know I am full of adhesions, (28 abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the?only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.? Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!? And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.????It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.? I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is
> something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.? They cause them every time they do surgery!? (Venting for a moment, sorry).????The worst part is they know about my blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.? Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.? When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.? I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).????Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.?Sincerely,DebbieNeed a job? Find an employment agency near you. ----------MB_8CB659D480AE8CA_258_2BAD_WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.comContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitContent-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"<EM><FONT face="Comic Sans MS,
> sans-serif" color=mediumorchid size=3>I had surgery to take down adhesions on Dec 29th. My 6th one. This time it was done by lapo. But I also still have that pulling on my left side when I sit for to long and standing up really hurts. I have to pull to straigthen up. I will include you in my prayers that it gets better for you as well.<br><br>Terrie</FONT></EM><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Alta Costew <racostew@sbcglobal.net><br>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.obgyn.net><br>Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 2:04 pm<br>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<br><br><div
> id=AOLMsgPart_2_eb176fcf-8059-4cb7-ace3-62f9b507be9d><STYLE type=text/css> #AOLMsgPart_2_eb176fcf-8059-4cb7-ace3-62f9b507be9d DIV {margin:0px;} </STYLE><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif"><div>I have the same thing.  Doctors thought it was because of a mass I had but the mass was removed on Jan 15 and I still have the same problem.<br></div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif"><br><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><HR SIZE=1><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Donna Johansen <<A href="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net"><A
> href="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net" ymailto="mailto:donnajohansen@telus.net">donnajohansen@telus.net</A>><br><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <<A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net</A>><br><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, February 23, 2009 6:55:30 PM<br><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Let's talk about symptoms!<br></FONT><br><div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT
> face=Arial>Ann-Marie,</FONT></SPAN></div><div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>OK, you are the first person here who has the same symptoms of pain on the left side that worsens with sitting etc.  This was looked for during all of my surgeries but cause not found.  Many other adhesions were taken care of and I am now much better but that left side pain drives me crazy, waking me early in the morning so that I have to be on sleeping pills.  I usually could feel right after every surgery that it wasn't taken care of.  Nurses would not believe me when I cried because it was still there, only hours after surgery.  Do you feel that pain now?</FONT></SPAN></div><div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class9315000-24022009><FONT face=Arial>Donna
> J</FONT></SPAN></div><br><div class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><HR><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org</A> [<A href="mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org?">mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>annmarie bluett<br><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:13 AM<br><B>
>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS<br><B>Subject:</B> Re:
> Let's talk about symptoms!<br></FONT><br></div><div></div><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><div>I cant belive what I am reading.  OMG - Bowel blockage is EXTREMELY SERIOUS - yes LIFE AND DEATH.</div><div>Thanks good ness my surgeon here in the UK recognised the fact and Insisted I had PREVENTATIVE surgery - I am post opp 1 week now.  The last thing he wanted was for me to get into an emergency situation the could turn out to be fatal.  Did I want surgery? No and now it hurts like buggery but did I want to leave it to the hand of God?  HELL no"!</div><div>It seems so different here in the UK - we dont have to go and find surgeons to do the procedure - if we need it it is
> performed.</div><div>My symptoms were very like most of yours - I would have constipation to the point that I did no go for 5 days plus and then when I did it was violent and watery.  I always had a nagging pain on the left side of my abdomen which would worsen if  I either sat too long, lay too long and stood too long.  Sex was and is very painful.</div><div>Now I know that my doc went in and freed my bowel which was very stuck down but he came out after that because he did not want to do any more damage to my internal organs as everything was stuck down so badly - I did ask if he would remove my appendix if he came across it but he said it was stuck to my bladder and he was frightened he may damage it.  He did put a film around my organs and when I have recovered more I will let you know if it has
> worked.</div><div>All I know is that I understand that he has done his best - he has made me no promises what so ever and nothing has been sugar coated.  I am extremely grateful for what he has done - I can cope with the pain - just but the alternative is not acceptable.</div><div>Hang in gals - I am sure there is a silver linning somewhere - I just thank god I am here to battle another day</div><div>Loads of hugs</div><div>Ann-Marie         <br><br>--- On <B>Sat, 21/2/09, Kelly Murray <I><<A href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com"><A href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com"
> ymailto="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<br></div><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Kelly Murray <<A href="mailto:klmurray_61@msn.com">klmurray_61@msn.com</A>><br>Subject: Re: Let's talk about symptoms!<br>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <<A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net</A>><br>Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 4:22
> AM<br><br><div id=yiv1927649460><div style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #800080; FONT-FAMILY: Perpetua"><div>I know what you mean.  How do we know if it is a life or death situation.  Remember the BeeGee brother died from a blockage and it seems like someone else that was famous did.</div><div>Some times I think maybe I better go and get it checked out but do not want to go and it ends up passing. </div><div>I am not in awe of any dr. anymore.  I realize they don't sit higher then we do.</div><BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><div sty >le="FONT:
>> 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div><div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=mail
>to:<A
> href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com">BBLDEB@aol.com href="mailto:BBLDEB@aol.com" rel=nofollow>BBLDEB@aol.com</A> </div><div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net href="mailto:<A href="mailto:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" ymailto="mail
>to:adhesions@mail.obgyn.net">adhesions@mail.obgyn.net" rel=nofollow>Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS</A> </div><div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 20, 2009 8:07 PM</div><div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's talk about
> symptoms!</div><div><br></div><FONT id=role_document face=Perpetua color=#800080 size=4><div><STRONG><FONT size=4>Kelly,</FONT></STRONG></div><div>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>I too have blockages.  Most of the time I can go up to 3 weeks or more before having a bowel movement.  Needless to say, that explains why I have so much nausea and vomiting.  And for the most part, I go up to 3 or more days at a time without eating.  And when I do try, other than a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon, it usually comes back up.  My question to my surgeon was "how long do I have to go without having a bowel movement before you consider it to be a blockage?"  To this day, no doctor has ever answered that question.  They know I am full of adhesions, (28
> abdominal surgeries to date) and now they tell me the only way they will operate again is if I have a blockage.  Well, if 3 weeks is not a blockage, then I have no clue what is!  And what is so bad about it, I am very knowledgeable in medical /prescription areas.</FONT></STRONG></div><div>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>It is unbelievable what some doctor's will say in order to rid of a patient that they can't figure out or can't help or have no clue on how to treat.  I am sorry, but to me, if they are a surgeon, then this is something they "ALL" should be able to deal with.  They cause them every time they do surgery!  (Venting for a moment, sorry).</FONT></STRONG></div><div>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>The worst part is they know about my
> blockages, but the doctor says that he wants it to be a "Life or Death" situation before he will do anything.  Well, to me, going 3 weeks in that kind of pain is "DEATH" every day for the most part.  When gas passes, that is the only relief for a blockage, when a doctor won't do anything at all.  I have 4 kinks in my bowel from the adhesions (that I know of).</FONT></STRONG></div><div>    <STRONG><FONT size=4>Good luck to all of us and hopefully we will find help soon.</FONT></STRONG></div><div><STRONG><FONT size=4></FONT></STRONG> </div><div><STRONG><FONT size=4>Sincerely,</FONT></STRONG></div><div><STRONG><FONT
> size=4>Debbie</FONT></STRONG></div></FONT><br><FONT style="FONT: 10pt arial,; COLOR: black"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">Need a job? <A title=<A href==
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