WHY do so many surgeons not believe in adhesions causing PAIN???

From: IAS Admin (tracy.joslin@adhesions.org)
Mon Dec 24 17:41:45 2007

From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org] On Behalf Of geniebene@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: WHY do so many surgeons not believe in adhesions causing PAIN???

Kat,   We are obviously all living proof that adhesions and ARD does exist!  The last surgeon that told me adhesions are painless....I asked him when was the last time he had surgery.  His answer...NEVER.  I asked him then, when the last time he experienced a bowel obstruction or organ failure due to strangulation from adhesions...his answer again...NEVER.  I then proceeded to tell him that I would appreciate then before he made such profound statements of certainty that he either complete his research or base them on personal experience because I wasn't going to sit there at be patronized by a doctor who was clueless to true life experience and based his statement from a textbook.  I left him standing there stunned when I told him as I left that I'd be sure to send him MY BILL for consultation since HE was the one to learn something from my visit.  I was never billed. Just thought I'd share... Don't know anyone in So. Cal...but I'm sure they must be doing some type of ARD research up around LA or San Diego.  There is no cure for this as we know...and you can't see them on any scan/xray from what i've been told over the years.  The only time they suspect they are there is when they do a flouroscope type scan and everything moves together...that usually means your organs are adhered, at least from my experience.  That still doesn't mean they will operate, unless there is a risk of function loss, etc. Good luck!!    jeanne  

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From: "IAS Admin (Tracy)" <tracy.joslin@adhesions.org>

> Sender: lkatn4@aol.com (Katkat)
> Subject: WHY do so many surgeons not believe in adhesions causing PAIN???
> Hi all!
> I have been reading this site for awhile and have a question. I had my
> gallbladder removed last Dec and still have problems. When he removed
> it there were also extensive adhesions to my omentum and transverse
> colon areas. He removed them and the only way I found out about them
> was when I requested his report... Now a year later I still have many
> problems and pain on that side as well as a bad pain in upper right side
> right below rib area. My dr thought maybe I had hernia but I have had 2
> surgeons examine me as well as CT scan and MRI and they both say no
> hernia... I am thinking it might be more adhesions?? WHY don't
> adhesions show up on anything? Or can they? I had multiple testings done
> before I had gallbladder out also and not ONCE did any dr say oh I see
> adhesions in there!!!
> I am very discouraged because the surgeon I saw yesterday basically told
> me WE (he means the surgical community I guess) do NOT believe adhesions
> cause pain!!!!! And when I tried to further question him about it he
> basically blew me off. I asked him if by chance he knew of any dr's or
> surgeons that specifically dealt with adhesions and he said OH NO, there
> is NO SUCH THING!!! Gawdddd.... I was so frustrated when I left there.
> Now I am not 100% sure that is my problem but it is worth a shot since
> everything else has been ruled out. And I did have extensive adhesions
> in this same area where I still have pain.
> So I gue ss my questions are, is there any dr's that specialize in this?
> And do adhesions actually cause pain? And why can't these adhesions be
> seen with these tests? And lastly WHY did this surgeon dismiss me so? I
> don't get it!

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