Re: Some side-affects actually help!

From: Jean (creative@enter.net)
Thu Aug 7 20:10:09 2003


Millie, Yes, I do have a moderate rectocele and have had it for pretty many years.

I also had a cystocele and uterine prolapse when I was young. They took the uterus out and sewed the bladder back up. Below are 2 sites about the different ones.

http://www.suffolkobgyn.com/viewArticle?ID=9796 http://www.wdxcyber.com/nurine05.htm

JEAN

At Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Millie wrote: >
>Jean,
>Add this as a kicker.
>I went to my favorite gastro's, my luck...he's on vacation.
>The nurse practitioner asked if I'd ever tried Zelnorm.
>So I said I am afraid to try it, (as due to HER gyn cutting me, and adding
>even worse adhesions. )
>I told the NP that I know there is a warning from Zelnorm saying it's not
>for women who have adhesions. The NP looked surprised and said she believed
>that only applied to women who've had bowel obstructions.
>I am having a lot of intestinal and pelvic pain and problems now. I am
>wondering if it's adhesions, or maybe rectocele, or the like.
>Bowel movements are usually loose, painful if I go or not. And definitely
>not emptying out.
>Jean, did you ever have rectocele, enterocele, or the like?
>Millie.
>

>>>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jean (from PA)" <creative@enter.net>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:38 AM
>Subject: Re: Some side-affects actually help!
>
>> Millie,
>> That shouldn't surprise you- LOL!
>> "We" must do our own research.
>> My 1st Gastro was my "worse" doctor ever, the one who said I had Crohn's
>> Disease and everything else in the book other than adhesions.
>>
>> I see the commercial every day now too, still shocks me every
>> time....unbelievable, that much advertising sure will put the word in
>> people's heads now at least.
>> JEAN
>>
>> At Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Millie wrote:
>> >
>> >Jean,
>> >I see that Zelnorm ad on t.v. every day. And I am surprised they stress
>not
>> >using it if you have adhesions.
>> >And the gastro who originally fired me in 1999, actually sent samples
>home
>> >with me when I went back to him last fall.
>> >And he KNOWS I had a hyst and have adhesions.
>> >Go figure that one.
>> >Millie.
>> >
>

>>>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Jean (from PA)" <creative@enter.net>
>> >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>> >Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 3:06 AM
>> >Subject: Some side-affects actually help!
>> >
>> >> Nancy,
>> >> That's like with me and meds that cause diahhrea.
>> >> They always laugh at me because I "ask" for the ones that cause
>> >> diahhrea!
>> >> They told me that was a side affect of Prilosec when I went on them and
>> >> I said "Great", better than using dynamite!!
>> >> I actually enjoy the flu....as long as I'm not up-chucking anyway-LOL!
>> >> JEAN
>> >>
>> >> At Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Nancy wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >My doctor let me try zelnorm and it worked well, for a while. She
>felt
>> >> >that the "contraindication" just told us that zelnorm wasn't a cure
>for
>> >> >the constipation that we know is caused by the adhesions. The symptom
>> >> >of consipation, however, was somewhat relieved when the food moved
>more
>> >> >quickly through my digestive system. I'd have to say it worked pretty
>> >> >good for me for several months before the effectiveness diminished.
>> >> >Plus, I'm sure that they adhesions have tightened in that same period
>of
>> >> >time. The first couple of days of zelnorm were rough, but after
>> >> >adjusting to the medication it was definitely better than without it.
>> >> >
>> >> >Be sure to discuss these issues with your doctor. I went into it with
>> >> >my eyes open and I was pleased with the result, at least for a while.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Nancy
>> >> >
>> >> >At Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Sue wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>not causing adhesions... only if you already suffer from then! then
>you
>> >are
>> >> >>NOT to use it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>sorry in a rush.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>--
>> >> >>SueRin Ohio
>> >> >>
>> >
>

>>>> >>> >>>>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>From: "Dixiepeep" <kbjarvis@yahoo.com>
>> >> >>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>> >> >>Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:29 PM
>> >> >>Subject: Re: Zelnor recognizes Adhesions
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Just rediscovered the site. Nice new look. I know when the Zelnor
>> >> >>> commercial came on and said the word adhesion they may as well have
>> >said
>> >> >>> my name because it really caught my attention. It is the first
>time I
>> >> >>> have ever heard of a drug side effect causing adhesions.
>> >> >>> t Thu, 31 Jul 2003, april degregory wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >At Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Jean wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>Just thought I would make everyone aware (if they didn't already
>> >know).
>> >> >>> >>I saw a commercial on "TV" for the drug called Zelnor.
>> >> >>> >>I was in disbelief when they mentioned the people who should not
>> >take
>> >> >>> >>this drug.
>> >> >>> >>People with ADHESIONS was on the list of people who should not
>take
>> >this
>> >> >>> >>drug!
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>They actually said the word ADHESIONS...and on TV where everyone
>can
>> >> >>> >>hear it (LOL)!!!
>> >> >>> >>Wow....they can say swear words on TV (since that is how it has
>been
>> >> >>> >>treated)....Tee Hee!
>> >> >>> >>JEAN
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>--
>> >> >>> >>Jean (from PA)
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >Hi Jean,
>> >> >>> >I am a ard sufferer and was in the hospital for 45 days, I was
>unable
>> >> >>> >to move my bowels and they gave me Zelnorn and it nearly killed
>me,
>> >> >>> >cramping pain horrible and no bowel movement, then I asked for a
>> >print
>> >> >>> >ou
>> >> >>> >of the Zelnorn and saw that and was like , are they trying to kill
>me
>> >or
>> >> >>> >what. I am proven to have adhesions, a had small bowel
>obstruction
>> >> >>> >caused
>> >> >>> >from adhesions a year or so ago, and an adhesionlysis in January
>> >showing
>> >> >>> >adhesions in all four quadrants of my abdomen. Well it turned out
>I
>> >was
>> >> >>> >ha
>> >> >>> >ving a paralytic ileus, it was a nightmare. Had to have a
>continious
>> >> >>> >spinal
>> >> >>> >epidural for 7 or 8 days. Anyway a couple of doctors I saw were
>> >> >>> >appalled that
>> >> >>> >they tried this drug on an adhesion sufferer. Sometimes I think
>> >these
>> >> >>> >docs
>> >> >>> >do read these warnings, as I was a known ARd patient.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >--
>> >> >>> >anthea,
>> >> >>> >Do you have any information about clinical trials for spraygel at
>the
>> >> >>cleveland clinic.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >I know you dont know me , Im new to the site.....but not to
>> >ARD.......I
>> >> >>thought somewhere in the archives cleveland was mentioned. would
>> >appreciate
>> >> >>any info you might have
>> >> >>> >Thanks,
>> >> >>> >April
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jean (from PA)
>> >>
>>
>> --
>> Jean (from PA)
>>


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