>>>----- Original Message -----
>From: MICHAEL MURRAY <mkmurray30@msn.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
>Subject: Re: One last time-my story
>
>> I would have to agree with Lisa on everything she has said.
>> I myself have been to Pennsylvania for surgery with no good results.
>> I went to Germany last December and had surgery. I came home and had some
>> problems in which I notified Dr. K. about. He suggested that I have some
>> tests ran and low and behold I had Gallstones. I had my gallbladder out
>in
>> May. I have to thank Dr. K for suggesting the tests as I don't think my
>> drs. here would have thought to do that. I wanted to go back to Germany to
>> have this surgery but was unable to go.
>> Unfortunately I am experiencing pelvic pain and other problems once again
>> and have had to go back on pain patches. I CAN'T SAY THAT IT IS ADHESIONS
>> BUT IT FEELS AS THOUGH IT IS. (The only way to know for sure is to go in
>and
>> look!)
>> Would I have another surgery for them in the states? NO!
>> I do have a friend from my town that followed me to Germany for surgery
>and
>> she is doing well. She didn't have adhesions in the pelvic area though.
>> I went to Minnesota at one time and was told that it is hard to get rid of
>> them in the pelvic area.
>> So...I think your best chance is Germany but I don't think we can say that
>> it is going to be 100% effective.
>> I am glad that there are some on here that feel they are adhesion free now
>> but there needs to be some insight on the expectations.
>> Kelly
>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lisa" <lilylover5555@aol.com>
>> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:18 AM
>> Subject: One last time-my story
>>
>> > Hey everyone,
>> > I'm still seeing a little bit of confusion over the results of many that
>> > have been to Germany. I would like to say my peace and clarify some
>> > things that I now understand...
>> > Both Sally and I have had some trouble after our surgeries with Dr.
>> > Kruschinski. I think you all ready knew that we have been up-front with
>> > our problems. Sally has told this board of her 1st surgery and the
>> > appendicitis that followed, all the problems it caused her with the
>> > resulting massive infection, and explosion of adhesions because of that
>> > infection. She told us of her 2nd surgery and her reaction to the
>> > spraygel??? If that is indeed what happened, she was the first to
>> > experience these kinds of problems, and no one knows exactly what
>> > happened. She has been very up-front with it all, as have I. I posted
>> > last fall of my continuing problems, and that I was told it was chronic
>> > pancreatitis, which turned out not to be the case! We have both tried
>> > our best to keep you all informed of what is happening with us, we have
>> > been honest! In retrospect I guess we could have posted more about this,
>> > but it has been a long struggle for both of us, with no definative
>> > answers. We also didn't want to drag down others, or give them any idea
>> > that the combination Dr. Kruschinski offers is not working! That is
>> > simply not true, he offers the best chance we have, in my opinion...for
>> > many patients the use of gas in adhesiolysis can be a factor in adhesion
>> > formation, so why not get all the help we can get, IF that is the route
>> > you choose to take!
>> > I also feel the need to clarify something I said awhile ago... that my
>> > 3rd look showed a very small adhesion...I stand corrected, and wanted
>> > you all to know that! What I saw as an adhesion,(I'm not a medical
>> > person) was in fact an "adhesive cord" which is not an adhesion, is not
>> > effective as an adhesion, it was very small,1 milimeter, and most
>> > important does not mean that I do in fact have adhesions back! I have
>> > gotten a second opinion on this matter, and they agree it may(or may
>> > not) be an adhesion!I chose to think NOT!!
>> > I have said before that I DON"T KNOW IF MY ADHESIONS ARE BACK... I have
>> > chosen another route that makes perfect sense to me and my situation...
>> > interstiial scarring. I'm still learning exactly what that means, but I
>> > think I can safely say it is more about nerves(on a cellular basis) than
>> > anything!!If any one has questions about this I'd be happy to try to
>> > explain the best I can, but I am still learning!
>> > I hope this clears some things up for you all...
>> > Lisa
>> >
>>