Re: ADHESIONS digest 2643

From: Darcy (jonesy@vci.net)
Mon Mar 17 22:05:14 2003


Just wanted to say thanx to all of your for your prayers and warm wishes. You are truly a special group of ladies! May God bless you all! Darcy

>----- Original Message -----
From: "Adhesions Society" <adhesions@adhesions.org> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: ADHESIONS digest 2643

> ADHESIONS Digest 2643
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) CAROLYN, IM THRILLED FOR YOU
> by cindyandbobby@webtv.net (cindy shruhan)
> 2) update from Mary lou
> by klischma@foxinternet.com
> 3) GREY WOLF, MY PATTI GIRL FLU
> by cindyandbobby@webtv.net (cindy shruhan)
> 4) Re: update from Mary lou
> by winged_phantom8@hotmail.com (winged phantom)
> 5) A reminder about posting on the IAS Message Board
> by tracy.joslin@adhesions.org (Tracy [IAS Admin])
> 6) I NEED SOME ADVICE!!!!!!
> by sweetlovin2u2002@hotmail.com (Brenda)
> 7) Re: I NEED SOME ADVICE!!!!!!
> by Cisario2002@aol.com
> 8) Re: Is there any pain relief.......
> by csheedy@netcom.ca (clareS)
> 9) a question
> by Koolinsask@aol.com
> 10) Adhesions: Complications
> by "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> 11) Re: a question
> by "Carolyn J Meadows" <lilly-lady@insightbb.com>
> 12) To Darcy
> by K Nygren <ifirgit@yahoo.com>
>
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> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:47:30 -0600 (CST)
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> From: cindyandbobby@webtv.net (cindy shruhan)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: CAROLYN, IM THRILLED FOR YOU
> Message-ID: <200303171747.h2HHlUP14075@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> HI CAROLYN, JUST HAD TO SAY I SAY YOUR REPLY, AND IM JUST THRILLED YOU
> HAVE HAD SURGERY, AND THAT YOUR DOING SO WELL, I THINK YOUR HELPING SO
> MANY FOLKS ON THIS BOARD, MYSELF INCLUDED, AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU SO
> MUCH, I DONT GET TO SAY HI TO YOU OFTEN, JUST KNOW I CARE..PRAYERS
> TO..LOVE CINDY SHRUHAN
>
> --
> I'M VISUALLY IMPAIRED, I NEED THE CAP'S IN ORDER TO TYPE, NOT TO OFFEND
ANYONE..THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING.............. cindyandbobby@webtv.net >
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:54:30 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: klischma@foxinternet.com
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: update from Mary lou
> Message-ID: <200303171754.h2HHsUt24285@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Six weeks and three days post-op from surgery in Germany. I am
> adhesion-pain free!.I am working as a nsg instructor part-time and
> spending many hours preparing for each class--sitting in a chair, which
> I could not do before!. I am still very tired, but I think it is mainly
> from the 10 days of bronchitis I had the day after I returned home from
> Germany. I put my TENS unit and ice paks away. I have decreased my
> amytriptelene from 50 mg at nite to 30 mg, tried lower but my other
> physical problems required it (arthritis, degenerative disk disease).
> Have gone on several other job interviews. Am scared of taking a
> full-time job, but hope to get one. Spent Saturday at a nursing home
> that needs an instructor. The students were mostly layed off computer
> assempbly workers, and were very motivated. I was even nervous to go
> there to be interviewed. After being mostly in bed for six months with
> untreated pain, I find that I am having a struggle rebuilding my
> confidence and self-esteem. I would like to hear from others if they
> also experienced this feeling, which I think is normal, but I hope I
> conquer it soon. The opportunity to be adhesion free is AVAILABLE. I
> hope for all ahesion sufferers to have their lives restored to
> wholeness. As for the world's political situation, I read the paper
> every day to stay informed, and it is also an antidote to the
> constipation-effect of amytriptelene.
>
> --
> mary lou
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:55:58 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: cindyandbobby@webtv.net (cindy shruhan)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: GREY WOLF, MY PATTI GIRL FLU
> Message-ID: <200303171755.h2HHtwe26011@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> HI SWEETIE, I WAS HAPPY TO GET YOUR BEAUTIFUL LETTER, AND IM GETTING
> READY TO REPLY TO THAT, BUT WANTED TO POST A GET WELL TO YOU, PRAYING
> YOUR FEELING BETTER AFTER THAT HORRID FLU, BOY ITS A BAD ONE, SO TAKE IT
> EASY, DRINK PLENTY OF FLUIDS, OH YEAH, TAKE TWO TYENOL, AND CALL ME IN
> THE AM..THAT WILL BE 300.00, THANKS ALOT.....HEHEHE, HEY WE HAVE TO KEEP
> A SMILE ON OUR FACE SOMETIMES, I THINK, OK JUST HAVING SOME FUN, PRAYING
> THAT YOUR BETTER BABY GIRL, AND I LOVE YA TONS, AND IM SENDING AN EMAIL
> TO YOU NOW...DONT OVER DO IT...K...LOVE YOU TONS CINDY SHRUHAN AND
> FAMILY
>
> --
> I'M VISUALLY IMPAIRED, I NEED THE CAP'S IN ORDER TO TYPE, NOT TO OFFEND
ANYONE..THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING.............. cindyandbobby@webtv.net >
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:13:33 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: winged_phantom8@hotmail.com (winged phantom)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: update from Mary lou
> Message-ID: <200303171813.h2HIDX315176@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Mary Lou,
> That's terrific! I'm so glad to hear your story and to hear you are now
> adhesion pain-free. Yes, yes, there are always those other spots that
> need treatment. Isn't that the truth? Just don't overdo it too soon.
> Your body is making huge adjustments and will need lots of time and
> sleep to be able to do that. I'm sure the DDD pain has added a lot to
> the stress on your body, too. I'm still recovering from my TAH/BSO;
> almost 5 weeks post-op now and haven't driven yet. I would not be
> surprised if I have more adhesions, but I thought it was a risk I should
> take, all things considered. I can't think of going to Germany until I
> take care of the DDD in my neck (my story is on healthboards in the
> spinal cord topic; there is also an active back problem topic if the
> trouble is lower down). Because of all the pains I have, my memory is
> not too great (lol), and I can't remember all your story. Some day I
> will have to go back by name and do a search to get caught up. But it
> must be absolutely thrilling to be up and out of bed after so long.
> Congratulations!
> wr
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:26:21 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: tracy.joslin@adhesions.org (Tracy [IAS Admin])
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: A reminder about posting on the IAS Message Board
> Message-ID: <200303172126.h2HLQLM12586@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> We want to keep the message board as a place for patients, members and
> visitors can ask questions regarding (and related to) Adhesions or ARD
> and feel comfortable. The IAS message board is available to anyone who
> visits our site around the globe. Please be aware that we have
> individuals from many ethnicities, cultural, religious and social
> backgrounds visiting our site each day. And for the record, I am never
> angry at the person making the posts -- unless it becomes a habit.
>
> With this in mind, I'd like to ask we all remember the following:
>
> 1. Keep your messages related to the topics of Adhesions and/or ARD and
> related issues.
>
> 2. Remember not to put your home address or telephone numbers in a post.
>
> 3. If you see a suspicious post - do not reply to it; instead, forward
> an email to: tracy.joslin@adhesions.org and let me handle the offender.
> This would include emails asking for money from unknown sources, offers
> of employment, offers to purchase drugs, religious/political related
> messages, etc.
>
> 4. While we like to see conversation between everyone, I would like to
> ask that your messages not be about world political or religious issues,
> etc. Today's messages entitled "So Shoot Me" have been deleted from
> today's message board.
>
> 5. If you post a message, it will show up soon on the Board - please be
> patient and do not post a second time. If you have any problems with
> not seeing your post - please let me know. As a reminder, I do not see
> messages until after they are posted on the message board.
>
> 6. Please be aware that we must maintain courtesy at all times to
> individuals who are posting messages. If you have a problem with
> someone - take it off line. At the same time, inappropriate language
> will not be tolerated.
>
> 7. Most important - if you are currently in litigation of any sort (or
> have pending litigation) and post messages to our Board, these messages
> are viewable to the entire Internet world and our located in our
> archives. We will also not delete your posts if asked as this would be
> an "obstruction" (no pun intended) of justice against the IAS. So watch
> what you say. This goes for medical, marriage or any other type of
> litigation you may be involved in.
>
> 8. If you are trying to reach someone on the board just to say hello --
> please use the email they have provided in a recent post. Also, please
> do not use the Board to ask someone if they have gotten your email that
> you sent to their personal email address.
>
> I appreciate everyone's assistance with these guidelines.
>
> --
> Tracy Joslin
> IAS Administrator
> tracy.joslin@adhesions.org
>
> Neither the IAS, Synechion, Dr. Wiseman or any other representative offers
> medical advice. Always consult a qualified medical professional.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:33:18 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: sweetlovin2u2002@hotmail.com (Brenda)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: I NEED SOME ADVICE!!!!!!
> Message-ID: <200303172233.h2HMXI929778@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Hello everybody this is Brenda from Ottawa. Well on Friday I finally
> had my first appointment at the pain mangaement clinic. They seem very
> sincere in helping me find away to be some what pain free. The question
> I have for the Board is has anyone had a pain block put in and if so how
> is it working??? Also there are apparently a couple of doctors here in
> Ottawa that deal with lazer the pain mangaement clinic is wondering
> wether it is a good idea to have me have another surgery to take the
> adhesions that seem to be attacking my bowel. I am just conerened that
> I will end up with a colostomy bag because my adhesions are tightly
> attached to my bowel. So any input would be great. Oh also here is
> another question has any one had any problems with there clacium like I
> mean there teeth becoming frail cause since I have been on the morphine
> I seem to be having very week teeth they are breaking on me or they are
> ending up with cavities and the funny thing is I am not a junk or sweet
> eater so I don't know what is going on. Well hope to hear from you guys
> regarding my questions and I hope you all have a pain free day . Sending
> hugs to all my friends.
> Brenda
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:03:32 EST
> ------------------------------
> From: Cisario2002@aol.com
> To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> Subject: Re: I NEED SOME ADVICE!!!!!!
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> i try massages warm baths laughter whatever else works can't take pain
meds > kidneys are bad and other side effects frighten me prayers to u and help
with > relief from painjulie in long island
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:33:01 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: csheedy@netcom.ca (clareS)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Is there any pain relief.......
> Message-ID: <200303172333.h2HNX1O07335@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Dear Kristal:
>
> Welcome to the IAS forum. I noticed that you have sent a couple of
> messages to the forum without a response (sorry).
>
> If you let the people on this site know what pain meds you are taking,
> perhaps some of them can help you better than I can (I am not on any
> pain meds right now). Do you have a pain management Dr or team? Browse
> around the IAS site and search the archives of this forum for the
> answers to questions.
>
> "Will life ever be the same again?" Well, maybe not the same, but
> hopefully better than it is now...:o) Proper pain management should help
> you, and there are some great results (so far, YEAH!) from the use of an
> adhesion barrier called Spraygel in Europe and Australia. It is in
> clinical trials in the U.S. and I don't know when they anticipate
> approval in North America.
>
> How exactly are your pain pills making you ill? If it's nausea, then I
> have found mint tea helpful, and also if you take a ginger 450mg pill
> right after each meal, it works too. You can get the ginger at any
> health food store.
>
> Kristal, I realize that I haven't been very much help to you, but I
> wanted you to know that you are not alone. There are countless people
> all around the world who deal with these @#%$@ adhesions. Check out
> Jo's Australian adhesions site at http://www.bombobeach.com. She's got
> a section on coping that I have found quite helpful. You are not
> alone...
>
> Wishing you pain free moments, hours and days.
> Clare
>
> At Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Kristal wrote:
> >
> >I'm on so many pain pills that I'm sick from them too. The pain in
> >everyday that God sends. I'm so tired. Will life ever be the same
> >again?
> >
> >--
> >Every record that I have ever received,
> >I had to pay for. I've also had to pay for
> >records that was needed by my lawyer.
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:38:50 EST
> ------------------------------
> From: Koolinsask@aol.com
> To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> Subject: a question
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> Hello all, this is Cherryl, and I have a rather stupid question...but here
> goes......Do, laxatives, create a huge amount of gas ???? I have been
> impacted, and the doc has me taking some drugs,(laxatives) stool
softeners, > and lots of prune juice......I am moving finally, but i am having extreme
> stomach pain, it seems to be gas,that is blocked in there, if some is
> relieved, then i feel somewhat better for a short spell......any info is
> welcome ......sorry for the dense question, but this is a nitemare.....
>
> Love you all
> Cherryl
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:22:07 -0600
> ------------------------------
> From: "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: Adhesions: Complications
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> 1.) Pelvic Pain: Laparoscopic Diagnosis...Complications (Slide 3 of 7)
>
> http://www.adhesions.com/comp_3.html
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 2.) "Abdominal adhesions sometimes bind together loops of intestine and > can result in intestinal obstruction."
> " Most adhesions cause no problems, but they can obstruct the intestine > in about 2 percent of all patients. These obstructions can occur several > years later. The adhesions can also block the ends of the fallopian > tubes, possibly causing infertility.
>
> " Adhesions also occur elsewhere and can be the cause of other disorders > – for instance, they can lead to glaucoma when located in the eyes, > and when located around the heart can result in pericarditis.
>
> " Adhesions can pull on nerves or organs, and depending on where they > are located can cause pain in the body while stretching, exercising, or > even deep breathing."
>
> <http://www.drkoop.com/template.asp?page=ency&ap=93&encyid=67>
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 3.) "Because adhesions connect organs and tissue that normally are > separated, they can lead to a variety of complications including pelvic > pain, infertility and bowel obstruction."
>
> http://www.inletmedical.org/html/pelvic_adhesions.htm
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 4.) "Pelvic infections may result in adhesions alone or adhesions with > blockage of the tube (hydrosalpinx)."
>
> http://www.reproductivecenter.com/adhesions.html
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> intestinal obstruction." </FONT></DIV>
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> <P><FONT size=2>" Most adhesions cause no problems, but they can > obstruct the
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> tubes, possibly causing infertility. </FONT>
> <P><FONT size=2>" Adhesions also occur elsewhere and can be the cause > of other
> disorders – for instance, they can lead to </FONT><A
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> size=2>glaucoma</FONT></A><FONT size=2> when located in the eyes, > and when
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> <P><FONT size=2>" Adhesions can pull on nerves or organs, and > depending on where
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> size=2>3.) "Because adhesions connect organs and tissue that normally > are
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT face=Arial></FONT></FONT><FONT
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT face=Arial size=2>4.) "Pelvic > infections may result
> in adhesions alone or adhesions with blockage of the tube > (hydrosalpinx)."
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> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:44:54 -0500
> ------------------------------
> From: "Carolyn J Meadows" <lilly-lady@insightbb.com>
> To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: Re: a question
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> Cherryl,
> I can tell you before I had my adhesion surgery with Dr. Kruschinski I had
> constant and miserable gas, got to point was not worth eating. Food does
not > digest properly. I had mostly diarrhea but would sometimes alternate with
> constipation. Now my bowels are normal.From reading on the website it
seems > most have constipation
> I never thought I would ever be normal again....but I am, and it is a
> wonderful feeling.
> aml Carolyn

>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Koolinsask@aol.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
> <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: a question
>
> > Hello all, this is Cherryl, and I have a rather stupid question...but
here > > goes......Do, laxatives, create a huge amount of gas ???? I have been
> > impacted, and the doc has me taking some drugs,(laxatives) stool
> softeners,
> > and lots of prune juice......I am moving finally, but i am having
extreme > > stomach pain, it seems to be gas,that is blocked in there, if some is
> > relieved, then i feel somewhat better for a short spell......any info is
> > welcome ......sorry for the dense question, but this is a nitemare.....
> >
> > Love you all
> > Cherryl
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:53:42 -0800 (PST)
> ------------------------------
> From: K Nygren <ifirgit@yahoo.com>
> To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> Subject: To Darcy
> Message-ID: <20030318015342.94766.qmail@web40401.mail.yahoo.com>
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> Darcy,
> I am only too happy to pray for your son, who along with my niece's
husband is in the mideast. I pray that no America dies, but if need be, that those deaths are not in vain. > Thank you for your prayers as well. I think a lot of the fight I have in
my life can be attributed to the fight I learned when I served this country. No, I did not go to war....although the first day I was on duty in Germany I thought it was WWIII happening when the tanks drove down the streets. Our unit was placed on high alert during the Iran hostage crisis. I was ready to go, despite the fact that it meant my husband and I leaving our child behind. At that time one of us could have been allowed to stay behind, but as you have seen with other servicemen and women, we both decided that we had chosen the life of service to our country and that is what we would do. It was never a question in our mind. I am a stronger woman for my military service. This strength has pulled me through so much and I can thank my country for that....if for nothing else....which by the way, I have plenty else to be thankful for. > I will be updating my story within the next couple of days. I have become
aware that I haven't kept it very current over the last couple of years and so much more needs to be shared. > Love to all,
> Karla
> Darcy <jonesy@vci.net> wrote:Hi,
> I'm one of the "silent" ones in this group, but I just had to say thank
you > for your stand for our country. You see, my son is over there. He is in
the > US Army and will be 21 yrs. old next month. When I hear of the protesters,
I > wonder if they realize, that it is people like my son who has made sure
and > continues to make sure that they continue to have that right to protest,
and > make stupid remarks about our leaders.
> Just wanted to weigh in and also to thank you. Please keep my son, as well
> as ALL involved in your prayers.
> Thank you and God bless,
> Darcy
>
> PS. Karla, my family and I have prayed for you. I have watched your story
> unfold, and you truly are a miracle!

>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adhesions Society" To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:22 AM
> Subject: ADHESIONS digest 2640
>
> > ADHESIONS Digest 2640
> >
> > Topics covered in this issue include:
> >
> > 1) So shoot me!
> > by K Nygren
> > 2) Re: So shoot me!
> > by "Carolyn J Meadows"
>
> > 3) Re: So shoot me!
> > by Pgrywlf@aol.com
> > 4) Re: So shoot me!
> > by "Carolyn J Meadows"
>
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:43:02 -0800 (PST)
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > From: K Nygren
> > To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> > Subject: So shoot me!
> > Message-ID: <20030317154302.50740.qmail@web40408.mail.yahoo.com>
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> >
> > You all know me. I got this today after I heard what Natalie of the
Dixie > Chicks had said about George W. While I know that we all have very
> different opinions and that this country allows us the right to free
> speech....the whole thing really angered me. I volunteered to serve my
> country for three years when I was 21. I would have given my life if I had
> been asked, and in many ways I have as it was surgery done by the military
> doctors that caused my first adhesions. I would still sacrifice my life
> today for the freedoms that this country gives.
> >
> > Today I choose to exercise some of my rights as an American. Miss
Natalie > had stated that she and the state of Texas was embarassed to have George
W. > as a Texan.
> >
> > "Maines reportedly told a London audience last week, in reference to
> Bush's push for military action against Iraq, "Just so you know, we're
> ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas." Well Miss
Maines, > this American is ashamed to have you as a citizen of this country. I used
> to love the Dixie Chicks music, but I will not listen to another of their
> c.d.'s. One more of those rights I am using today. Thank God for America!
> >
> > Okay, so you all probably think maybe I am going just a bit overboard,
but > the below email I received is what got me going. No, I am not war hungry.
> Yes, I care about the innocent children. But, I ask this.....Did they stop
> to think about all the innocent children...yet alone, the innocent victims
> of 9/11? Many say that there is no proof that Iraq was behind 9/11. I,
> myself, have no doubts, but when I saw the people celebrating in the
streets > on 9/11/2001 after so many innocent lives were killed, I lost a lot of
that > innocence and trust that filled me. It will happen again. It may not be
> 9/11, but will it be 7/29 or 10/28? We need to do something to stop this!
> >
> > Finally, the letter I received:
> >
> > BRITISH EDITORIAL
> >
> > No matter what your views on Bush this, from an English journalist, is
> very
> > interesting.
> >
> > For those of you not familiar with the UK's Daily Mirror, this is a
> > notoriously left-wing daily that is normally not supportive of the
> > Colonials
> > across the Atlantic.
> >
> > Tony Parsons Daily Mirror
> >
> > One year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- the
> mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless
> > cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there, with Pol Pot's
> > mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like
> garbage
> > in the Nazi concentration camps. An unspeakable act so cruel, so
> > calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on
> one thing- nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: the
> victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil.
> >
> > But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's
> > comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last
> > year.
> > There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country
> too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than
> Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me.
> >
> > More than that, it turns my stomach.
> >
> > America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We
are > > bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a
> > century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as
> well
> > as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly a year ago,
> > thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just Americans, but
> > from
> > dozens of countries - were butchered by a small group of religious
> > fanatics.
> >
> > Are we so quick to betray them?
> >
> > What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on
the > > planes was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers,
somebody's > > son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives, and children, some
> unborn.
> >
> > And these people brought it on themselves?
> >
> > And their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?
> >
> > These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or
> > Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The
> > anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame
the > > Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering
> > from
> > power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes
> > without having to ask permission.
> >
> > The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since
> > September 11.
> >
> > Remember, remember. Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men
> > phoning
> > their wives to say, "I love you," before they were burned alive.
> >
> > Remember those people leaping to their deaths from the top of burning
> > skyscrapers.
> >
> > Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive.
> >
> > Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was on one
of > > the planes with her mum.
> >
> > Remember, remember - and realize that America has never retaliated for
> > 9/11 in anything like the way it could have. So a few al-Qaeda tourists
> > got
> > locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass the Kleenex...
> >
> > So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they merrily fired
> > their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but
> maybe
> > next time they should stick to confetti.
> >
> > AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot.
> >
> > That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being
> > raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a democracy is for.
> >
> > How many in the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the
> > slaughtered innocents of 9/11?
> >
> > How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder
of > > 9/11 was an abomination?
> >
> > When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving
> > Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that and
> > didn't push the button.
> >
> > We should thank the stars that America is the most powerful nation in
the > > world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not provoke all-out war.
> > Not a "war on terrorism." A real war.
> >
> > The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell,"
if > > America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of hell
> > like you wouldn't believe.
> >
> > The US is the most militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face
of > > the earth. The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect
> and
> > the planned war on Iraq may be misconceived.
> >
> > But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these
wretched > > countries.
> >
> > How many democracies are there in the Middle East, or in the Muslim
world? > >
> > You can count them on the fingers of one hand assuming you haven't had
any > > chopped off for minor shoplifting.
> >
> > I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's
> poodle.
> >
> > But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh.
> >
> > Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to
be - > > rich, free, strong, open, optimistic. Not ground down by the past, or
> > religion, or some caste system. America is the best friend this country
> > ever had and we should start remembering that.
> >
> > Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the
> > loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the
burning > > towers.
> >
> > Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the
hijacked > > planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper. And tell it to
> > the
> > hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the New York Fire
> > Department.
> >
> > To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press than Saddam Hussein.
> >
> > Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people
> and
> > set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street.
> >
> > Remember, remember, September 11.
> >
> > One of the greatest atrocities in human history was committed against
> > America.
> >
> > No, do more than remember.
> >
> > Never forget.
> >
> > God Bless you all!
> >
> > Karla
> >
> > **Soaring with my angel**
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/karlasfamily2001
> > http://www.geocities.com/princessd82000/BraydensHaven
> >
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> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> >
> You all know me. I got this today after I heard what Natalie of
> the Dixie Chicks had said about George W. While I know that we all
> have very different opinions and that this country allows us the right to
> free speech....the whole thing really angered me. I volunteered to
> serve my country for three years when I was 21. I would have given my
> life if I had been asked, and in many ways I have as it was surgery done
by > the military doctors that caused my first adhesions. I would still
> sacrifice my life today for the freedoms that this country gives.
>
> >
> Today I choose to exercise some of my rights as an American. Miss
> Natalie had stated that she and the state of Texas was embarassed to have
> George W. as a Texan.
>
> >
> "Maines reportedly told a London audience last week, in reference to
> Bush's push for military action against Iraq, "Just so you know, we're
> ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas." Well Miss
Maines, > this American is ashamed to have you as a citizen of this country. I
> used to love the Dixie Chicks music, but I will not listen to another of
> their c.d.'s. One more of those rights I am using today. Thank
> God for America!
>
> >
> Okay, so you all probably think maybe I am going just a bit overboard,
> but the below email I received is what got me going. No, I am not war
> hungry. Yes, I care about the innocent children. But, I ask
> this.....Did they stop to think about all the innocent children...yet
alone, > the innocent victims of 9/11? Many say that there is no proof that
> Iraq was behind 9/11. I, myself, have no doubts, but when I saw the
> people celebrating in the streets on 9/11/2001 after so many innocent
lives > were killed, I lost a lot of that innocence and trust that filled me.
> It will happen again. It may not be 9/11, but will it be 7/29 or
> 10/28? We need to do something to stop this!
>
> >
> Finally, the letter I received:
>
> >
> BRITISH EDITORIAL
>
> No matter what your views on Bush this, from
> an English journalist, is very
> interesting.
>
> For those of you not
> familiar with the UK's Daily Mirror, this is a
> notoriously left-wing
> daily that is normally not supportive of the
> Colonials
> across the
> Atlantic.
>
> Tony Parsons Daily Mirror
>
> One year ago, the world
> witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- the mass murder of thousands,
> live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless
> cruelty of the
> human race, September 11 was up there, with Pol Pot's
> mountain of skulls
> in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like garbage
> in the Nazi
> concentration camps. An unspeakable act so cruel, so
> calculated and
> so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on one thing-
nobody > deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: the victims were
> truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil.
>
> But to the world's
> eternal shame, 9/11 is increas!
> > ingly seen as America's
> comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism
> has increased over the last
> year.
> There has always been a simmering
> resentment to the USA in this country too loud, too rich, too full of
> themselves and so much happier than Europeans - but it has become an
> epidemic. And it seems incredible to me.
>
> More than that, it turns my
> stomach.
>
> America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest
> ally. We are
> bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little
> over half a
> century ago, around half a million Americans died for our
> freedoms, as well
> as their own. Have we forgotten so soon?
> And exactly a year ago,
> thousands of ordinary men, women and
> children - not just Americans, but
> from
> dozens of countries - were
> butchered by a small group of religious
> fanatics.
>
> Are we so quick
> to betray them?
>
> What touched the heart about those who died in the
> twin towers and on the
> planes w!
> > as that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's
> son
> and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives, and children, some
> unborn.
>
> And these people brought it on themselves?
>
> And their
> nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?
>
> These
> days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or
> Karachi
> or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The
> anti-American
> alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the
> Americans for
> every ill in the Third World, and conservatives
> suffering
> from
> power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can
> do what it likes
> without having to ask permission.
>
> The truth is
> that America has behaved with enormous restraint since
> September
> 11.
>
> Remember, remember. Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of
> weeping men
> phoning
> their wives to say, "I love you," before they were
> burned alive.
>
> Remember those people leaping to their!
> > deaths from the top of burning
> skyscrapers.
>
> Remember the
> hundreds of firemen buried alive.
>
> Remember the smiling face of that
> beautiful little girl who was on one of
> the planes with her
> mum.
>
> Remember, remember - and realize that America has never
> retaliated for
> 9/11 in anything like the way it could have. So a
> few al-Qaeda tourists
> got
> locked without a trial in Camp X-ray?
> Pass the Kleenex...
>
> So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up
> after they merrily fired
> their semi-automatics in a sky full of American
> planes? A shame, but maybe
> next time they should stick to
> confetti.
>
> AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a
> parking lot.
>
> That it didn't is a sign of strength. American
> voices are already being
> raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a
> democracy is for.
>
> How many in the Islamic world will have a minute's
> silence for the
> slaughtered innocents of 9/11!
> > ?
>
> How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass
> murder of
> 9/11 was an abomination?
>
> When the news of 9/11 broke on
> the West Bank, those freedom-loving
> Palestinians were dancing in the
> street. America watched all of that and
> didn't push the
> button.
>
> We should thank the stars that America is the most powerful
> nation in the
> world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not
> provoke all-out war.
> Not a "war on terrorism." A real
> war.
>
> The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of
> hell," if
> America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the
> gates of hell
> like you wouldn't believe.
>
> The US is the most
> militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face of
> the earth.
> The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect and
> the
> planned war on Iraq may be misconceived.
>
> But don't blame America for
> not bringing peace and light to these wret!
> > ched
> countries.
>
> How many democracies are there in the Middle
> East, or in the Muslim world?
>
> You can count them on the fingers
> of one hand assuming you haven't had any
> chopped off for minor
> shoplifting.
>
> I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that
> makes me Bush's poodle.
>
> But I would rather be a dog in New York City
> than a Prince in Riyadh.
>
> Above all, America is hated because it is
> what every country wants to be -
> rich, free, strong, open, optimistic.
> Not ground down by the past, or
> religion, or some caste system.
> America is the best friend this country
> ever had and we should start
> remembering that.
>
> Or do you really think the USA is the root of all
> evil? Tell it to the
> loved ones of the men and women who leaped to
> their death from the burning
> towers.
>
> Tell it to the nursing
> mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked
> planes, or were ripped
> apart in a collapsing skysc!
> > raper. And tell it to
> the
> hundreds of young widows whose husbands
> worked for the New York Fire
> Department.
>
> To our shame, George Bush
> gets a worse press than Saddam Hussein.
>
> Once we were told that Saddam
> gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people and
> set up rape-camps in
> Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street.
>
> Remember,
> remember, September 11.
>
> One of the greatest atrocities in human
> history was committed against
> America.
>
> No, do more than
> remember.
>
> Never forget.
>
> >
> God Bless you all!
>
> Sans MS">Karla
>
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>
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> ocities.com/karlasfamily2001
>
> http://www.geocities.com/princessd82000/BraydensHaven
>
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> > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:00:14 -0500
> > ------------------------------
> > From: "Carolyn J Meadows"
>
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: So shoot me!
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> > God Bless You, and May God Bless America!
> > I too am ashamed of the immature Dixie Chicks and will never watch > > another of their shows.
> > Why don't all of these America haters live in another county....like >
> === message truncated ===
>
> Karla
>
> **Soaring with my angel**
>
> http://www.geocities.com/karlasfamily2001
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> <P>Darcy,
> <P>I am only too happy to pray for your son, who along with my niece's
husband is in the mideast.&nbsp; I pray that no America dies, but if need be, that those deaths are not in vain.&nbsp; > <P>Thank you for your prayers as well.&nbsp; I think a lot of the fight I
have in my life can be attributed to the fight I learned when I served this country.&nbsp; No, I did not go to war....although the first day I was on duty in Germany I thought it was WWIII happening when the tanks drove down the streets.&nbsp; Our unit was&nbsp;placed on high alert&nbsp;during the Iran hostage crisis.&nbsp; I was ready to go, despite the fact that it meant my husband and I leaving our child behind.&nbsp; At that time one of us could have been allowed to stay behind, but as you have seen with other servicemen and women, we both decided that we had chosen the life of service to our country and that is what we would do.&nbsp; It was never a question in our mind.&nbsp; I am a stronger woman for my military service.&nbsp; This strength has pulled me through so much and I can thank my country for that....if for nothing else....which by the way, I have plenty else to be thankful for. > <P>I will be updating my story within the next couple of days.&nbsp; I
have become aware that I haven't kept it very current over the last couple of years and so much more needs to be shared. > <P>Love to all,
> <P>Karla
> <P>&nbsp;<B><I>Darcy &lt;jonesy@vci.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
#1010ff 2px solid">Hi,<BR>I'm one of the "silent" ones in this group, but I just had to say thank you<BR>for your stand for our country. You see, my son is over there. He is in the<BR>US Army and will be 21 yrs. old next month. When I hear of the protesters, I<BR>wonder if they realize, that it is people like my son who has made sure and<BR>continues to make sure that they continue to have that right to protest, and<BR>make stupid remarks about our leaders.<BR>Just wanted to weigh in and also to thank you. Please keep my son, as well<BR>as ALL involved in your prayers.<BR>Thank you and God bless,<BR>Darcy<BR><BR>PS. Karla, my family and I have prayed for you. I have watched your story<BR>unfold, and you truly are a miracle!<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Adhesions Society" <ADHESIONS@ADHESIONS.ORG><BR>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"<BR><ADHESIONS@MAIL.MEDISPECIALTY.COM><BR>Sent: Monda! > y, March 17, 2003 10:22 AM<BR>Subject: ADHESIONS digest

2640<BR><BR><BR>&gt; ADHESIONS Digest 2640<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Topics covered in this issue include:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 1) So shoot me!<BR>&gt; by K Nygren <IFIRGIT@YAHOO.COM><BR>&gt; 2) Re: So shoot me!<BR>&gt; by "Carolyn J Meadows" <LILLY-LADY@INSIGHTBB.COM><BR>&gt; 3) Re: So shoot me!<BR>&gt; by Pgrywlf@aol.com<BR>&gt; 4) Re: So shoot me!<BR>&gt; by "Carolyn J Meadows" adhesions@adhesions.org<BR>&gt; Subject: So shoot me!<BR>&gt; Message-ID:&lt;20030317154302.50740.qmail@web40408.mail.yahoo.com&gt;<BR>&gt; MIME-Version: 1.0<BR>&gt; Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<BR>boundary="0-757060809-1047915782=:50196"<BR>&gt;<B R>&gt; --0-757060809-1047915782=:50196<BR>&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; chars! > et=us-ascii<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; You all know me. I got this today
after I heard what Natalie of the Dixie<BR>Chicks had said about George W. While I know that we all have very<BR>different opinions and that this country allows us the right to free<BR>speech....the whole thing really angered me. I volunteered to serve my<BR>country for three years when I was 21. I would have given my life if I had<BR>been asked, and in many ways I have as it was surgery done by the military<BR>doctors that caused my first adhesions. I would still sacrifice my life<BR>today for the freedoms that this country gives.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Today I choose to exercise some of my rights as an American. Miss Natalie<BR>had stated that she and the state of Texas was embarassed to have George W.<BR>as a Texan.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "Maines reportedly told a London audience last week, in reference to<BR>Bush's push for military action against Iraq, "Just so you know, we're<BR>ashamed the president of the United! > States is from Texas." Well Miss Maines,<BR>this American is ashamed to
have you as a citizen of this country. I used<BR>to love the Dixie Chicks music, but I will not listen to another of their<BR>c.d.'s. One more of those rights I am using today. Thank God for America!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Okay, so you all probably think maybe I am going just a bit overboard, but<BR>the below email I received is what got me going. No, I am not war hungry.<BR>Yes, I care about the innocent children. But, I ask this.....Did they stop<BR>to think about all the innocent children...yet alone, the innocent victims<BR>of 9/11? Many say that there is no proof that Iraq was behind 9/11. I,<BR>myself, have no doubts, but when I saw the people celebrating in the streets<BR>on 9/11/2001 after so many innocent lives were killed, I lost a lot of that<BR>innocence and trust that filled me. It will happen again. It may not be<BR>9/11, but will it be 7/29 or 10/28? We need to do something to stop this!<BR>&gt;! > <BR>&gt; Finally, the letter I received:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; BRITISH
EDITORIAL<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; No matter what your views on Bush this, from an English journalist, is<BR>very<BR>&gt; interesting.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; For those of you not familiar with the UK's Daily Mirror, this is a<BR>&gt; notoriously left-wing daily that is normally not supportive of the<BR>&gt; Colonials<BR>&gt; across the Atlantic.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Tony Parsons Daily Mirror<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; One year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- the<BR>mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless<BR>&gt; cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there, with Pol Pot's<BR>&gt; mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like<BR>garbage<BR>&gt; in the Nazi concentration camps. An unspeakable act so cruel, so<BR>&gt; calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on<BR>one thing- nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be conse! > nsus: the<BR>victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly
evil.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's<BR>&gt; comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last<BR>&gt; year.<BR>&gt; There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country<BR>too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than<BR>Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; More than that, it turns my stomach.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are<BR>&gt; bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a<BR>&gt; century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as<BR>well<BR>&gt; as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly a year ago,<BR>&gt; thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just Americans, but<BR>&gt; from<BR>&gt; dozens of countries - were ! > butchered by a small group of religious<BR>&gt; fanatics.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;
Are we so quick to betray them?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the<BR>&gt; planes was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's<BR>&gt; son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives, and children, some<BR>unborn.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; And these people brought it on themselves?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; And their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or<BR>&gt; Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The<BR>&gt; anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the<BR>&gt; Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering<BR>&gt; from<BR>&gt; power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes<BR>&gt; without having to ask permission.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The ! > truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since<BR>&gt;
September 11.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Remember, remember. Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men<BR>&gt; phoning<BR>&gt; their wives to say, "I love you," before they were burned alive.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Remember those people leaping to their deaths from the top of burning<BR>&gt; skyscrapers.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was on one of<BR>&gt; the planes with her mum.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Remember, remember - and realize that America has never retaliated for<BR>&gt; 9/11 in anything like the way it could have. So a few al-Qaeda tourists<BR>&gt; got<BR>&gt; locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass the Kleenex...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they merrily fired<BR>&gt; their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but<BR>maybe<BR>&gt; next time ! > they should stick to confetti.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; AMERICA could have turned a
large chunk of the world into a parking lot.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being<BR>&gt; raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a democracy is for.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; How many in the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the<BR>&gt; slaughtered innocents of 9/11?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of<BR>&gt; 9/11 was an abomination?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving<BR>&gt; Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that and<BR>&gt; didn't push the button.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; We should thank the stars that America is the most powerful nation in the<BR>&gt; world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not provoke all-out war.<BR>&gt; Not a "war on terrorism." A real war.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The fundamentalist dudes are talki! > ng about "opening the gates of hell," if<BR>&gt; America attacks Iraq.
Well, America could have opened the gates of hell<BR>&gt; like you wouldn't believe.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The US is the most militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face of<BR>&gt; the earth. The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect<BR>and<BR>&gt; the planned war on Iraq may be misconceived.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these wretched<BR>&gt; countries.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; How many democracies are there in the Middle East, or in the Muslim world?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; You can count them on the fingers of one hand assuming you haven't had any<BR>&gt; chopped off for minor shoplifting.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's<BR>poodle.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wan! > ts to be -<BR>&gt; rich, free, strong, open, optimistic. Not ground down
by the past, or<BR>&gt; religion, or some caste system. America is the best friend this country<BR>&gt; ever had and we should start remembering that.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the<BR>&gt; loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the burning<BR>&gt; towers.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked<BR>&gt; planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper. And tell it to<BR>&gt; the<BR>&gt; hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the New York Fire<BR>&gt; Department.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press than Saddam Hussein.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people<BR>and<BR>&gt; set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Remember, remember, September! > 11.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; One of the greatest atrocities in human history was
committed against<BR>&gt; America.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; No, do more than remember.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Never forget.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; God Bless you all!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Karla<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; **Soaring with my angel**<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; http://www.geocities.com/karlasfamily2001<BR>&gt; http://www.geocities.com/princessd82000/BraydensHaven<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ----- ----------------------------<BR>&gt; Do you Yahoo!?<BR>&gt; Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business your business<BR>online<BR>&gt; --0-757060809-1047915782=:50196--<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --------------------------- ---<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:00:14 -0500<BR>&gt; From: http://www.adhesions.org/forums/<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --------------------------- "Carolyn J Meadows" <LILLY-LADY@INSIGHTBB.COM><BR>&gt; To: http://www.adhesions.org/forums/<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --------------------------- <ADHESIONS@ADHESIONS.ORG><BR>&gt; Subject: Re: So shoot me!<BR>&gt; Message-ID: &lt;001001c2ec9e$4c7bb9c0$0e54de0c@ct271127a&gt;<BR>&gt; MIME-Version: 1.0<BR>&gt; Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<BR>&gt; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2EC74.637F8C20"<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; This is a multi-part mes! > sage in MIME

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