Rita: Clinical trials at Atlanta, GA...Dr. Lyons and SprayGel adhesion barrier...

From: Helen Dynda (olddad66@runestone.net)
Wed Jul 24 23:09:58 2002

Dear Rita,

Yes the first surgery is at the patient's expense. I'm not sure if medical insurance will pay for the first procedure or not; so this is a question you will have to check out with your medical insurance.

According to Dr. Lyon's website, Confluent Surgical will be paying for the second look procedures. Confluent Surgical is very interested in the outcome at the time of the second look for those, who had SprayGel applied.

Half of the clinical trial patients will get SprayGel applied at the end of their initial or first surgery. The other half will NOT get SprayGel. None of the clinical trial participants will know if SprayGel was applied at the end of their first surgery or not.

I have heard wonderful things about the surgeries that Dr. Lyons performs. He is a very skilled and very experienced surgeon!! Those, who did NOT get SprayGel at the first surgery, will still have had the same quality of surgical procedure as those, who in the group that had SprayGel applied at the first surgery. Dr. Lyons is one of the top laparoscopic surgeons in the United States!!

Those who did NOT have SprayGel at their first surgery will have the opportunity to have SprayGel applied at the time of their second look. So if the SprayGel group proves to have excellent results, the non-SprayGel group will still be able to have SprayGel.

I hope I have answered your question.


At Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Rita Steele wrote: >
>Karla or Helen,
>Are these clinical trials suppose to be payed for by
>the company sponsoring them? According to Dr. Lyons
>web site the first surgery is at the patients expense!
>Rita in AZ
>--- Karla <ifirgit@new.rr.com> wrote:
>> From: Karla To: adhesions@adhesions.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 5:26 PM
>> Subject: Fw: Dr. Lyons Vindicated..the rest of the
>> story on Clinical trials and waiting lists!
>> Hi all,
>> I wanted to immediately clear some information up
>> regarding my earlier posts and the forwarding of
>> information from Bev. While the gist of all of the
>> information that was passed on earlier remains the
>> same we both want to clarify information that was
>> passed on by Dr. Lyons. We apologize if this caused
>> any undo turmoil. The following is the additional
>> information that I received from Bev:
>> The comments regarding a waiting list in Germany had
>> not been proven as fact. Dr. Lyons is excused in
>> that it appears his intentions in repeating a
>> comment he heard regarding that issue was his
>> attempt to expedite the clinical trials here and get
>> them started so he could help those he thought were
>> in fact on a waiting list.
>> Non the less, anyone who wish's to secure an
>> adhesiolysis with Confluent Spraygel and Dr. Reich
>> can contact Dr. Kruschinski at:
>> Dr.Kruschinski@t-online.de
>> Dr. Reich will be at the Emma Clinic in Frankfurt
>> this coming September. I am willing to assist anyone
>> interested in securing information on
>> that.http://www.EndoGyn.com
>> It also appears that those who are selected for the
>> clinical trials for Confluent Spraygel in the USA
>> can indeed have the Confluent Spraygel used on
>> organs other then the reproductive organs. That is
>> IF your selected as part of the group who will get
>> the Spraygel!
>> Now we have this cleared up, Germany is alive and
>> kicking, Dr. Lyons is vindicated, and we have
>> learned something new about the clinical trials! And
>> as always, I call it as I see it!
>> One very positive aspect of the information that was
>> passed today is that communication is open for
>> everyone to see, as it should be. Far to long things
>> discussed between a Dr. and patient stayed where it
>> was said, but not today, and there is no room for
>> things to be kept quiet or private in a sense as
>> that is exactly why so many people felt so alone as
>> well as suffering so terribly with issues
>> surrounding ARD! Those times are gone..we talk, we
>> share and nothing will stop that now. It is best
>> that people get used to it as it is the way we who
>> suffer the indignities of ARD intend to handle
>> things.. in the open and upfront!
>> Karla
>> Somewhere up in the stars.................
>> My angel and me!
>> http://www.geocities.com/karlasfamily2001
>> http://www.geocities.com/princessd82000/BraydensHaven

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