Re: NO MORE SURGERY!

From: Kelly Murray (mkmurray@cyberport.com)
Mon Apr 15 19:06:16 2002


Robin, I will be keeping up on you and if you seem to get to a point where you feel pretty much adhesion free, I will surely look into going to Germany. Some days I am at a point that I would let anyone do surgery. (Not Good) Good luck Kel -------Original Message------- From: adhesions@adhesions.org Date: Saturday, April 13, 2002 06:26:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS Subject: Re: NO MORE SURGERY! Dear Kelly, Although I am not adhesion free after my surgery in Germany, when Dr Korell did the second look lap, I had 50% reformation. That means that 50% did not come back. I came home knowing I would have 15-30% reformation. My last surgery done locally, the Dr said he thought the surgeries in Germany did me a lot of good because I didn't have much adhesions. I feel that my best chance of becomeing adhesion free is Dr Korell. Even if each time, he could reduce my adhesions by 50%, eventually I would become adhesion free. It is my thoughts now that if I could have a few more surgeries with Dr Korell, he could get me free of the adhesions. I just have to come up with a way to pay for it. I am raising money now to get back to Germany. I have decided that I will only have surgery with Dr Korell, that way I know that I have the best surgeon and he will know what exactly is going on inside me. So, even though I still have pain, I know that my adhesions are reduced, if I didn't mess it up with my last surgery. robin
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At Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Kelly Murray wrote:
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>I don't think a person should go anywhere but I don't see a large amount of
>people that are getting"cured" in Scranton or Germany. I know that my p in
>is back from the adhesions and not from the incisions. I guess I just fe l
>so let down after spending so much money for surgery and feeling the sam .
I
>was so excited to finally go and have my surgery to end the adhesion
>nightmare to only be the same and maybe a little worse.
>I don't think the answer is more surgery but I also don't know if these drs
>are so much better then others that perform adhesiolis. (sp) I may be wr ng
>but....
>I do know though that after reading your posts, that I won't jump into
>surgery again. I am trying to hold off but I am afraid that one day I w ll
>get blocked. I will probably just end up going somewhere close to home or
>this and pray that it will last for awhile.
>God Bless You Karla,
>Kel
>
>-------Original Message-------
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>From: adhesions@adhesions.org
>Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:06:58 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Subject: NO MORE SURGERY!
>
>I know many people on here have been through the
>process of having to decide whether or not they should
>have surgery for their adhesions. Pain is an awful
>thing. I would like to explain my opinion and perhaps
>people will understand better.
>
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>There are many, many doctors in this country that feel
>that they can perform an adhesiolysis and you know
>what? They can. The question is, can they perform it
>adequately so that your adhesions are gone permanently
>or so that they are at least diminished substantially
>and no adhesions reform. There is one doctor who
>offers a cure in thirteen surgeries. Do you want to
>go through that? Many people are learning, after
>trips to the best doctors in the world...both here in
>this country and overseas that perhaps their pain
>hasn't been from adhesions or that the pain that they
>have now isn't from adhesions. We are learning that
>many of the people seeking treatment at even the best
>places have another pain....pain caused from the
>cutting of our tissues. Some people are developing
>the most debilitating pain from this. We have had
>people have surgery in Scranton and go to Germany only
>to learn that they had either very minimal reformation
>of adhesions or none at all. They are learning that
>their pain is from the incisions. There is no cure
>for that. But still, if we feel that we have to have
>surgery....that we cannot live with the pain (I am
>talking about everyone...people who have not been to
>Scranton or Germany) then you are doing yourself a
>disservice by having surgery performed by an unskilled
>physician. These doctors do think they know what they
>are doing....but either they don't or they don't want
>to take the time to meticulously take each adhesion
>down and remove each little speck of blood or other
>matter. This lengthens the surgery time by hours.
>Insurance only pays roughly $2500 for an adhesiolysis.
>If you were a doctor would you accept that amount if
>you stood in the operating room for ten hours? I would
>probably try and do as many surgeries as possible
>instead of one major procedure that I'm not really
>making money on. Its a shame that its about
>money....but that's life. Everyone who I know who has
>gone to Scranton or New York before the move had a
>procedure that lasted a minimum of four hours. One
>woman was in excess of ten hours. All of these women
>are relatively painfree in comparison to how they were
>prior to the surgery. All of them had undergone lysis
>of adhesions prior only to have the pain return.
>
>If you are to go to a surgeon who doesn't use quite
>the right procedure your adhesions WILL return worse
>than they were before....because you have now given
>them another area to form. The pain will be worse and
>what will you have gained? Yes, you might have a
>couple of months pain free....perhaps even a year or
>so (I haven't heard anyone say that it has been that
>long when they have had prior surgeries). But, when
>it returns and is worse and causes further problems
>what have you gained?
>
>Believe me, I can't tell you enough that I have made
>these same mistakes. I am not a doctor...but I am
>someone that is going to die because I allowed my
>doctor to convince me 27 times that I needed surgery.
>Not one of those surgeries was to prevent a life
>threatening situation...well I must take that
>back....I did have a few procedures to correct some
>major errors that they made that would have caused my
>death if nothing was done. I am trying to reach out
>to you and ask you to educate yourself about
>adhesions. Read everything there is to read. Read
>every story on the quilt. Unless you are seeking
>surgery from one of the very few doctors in this world
>who has had any success chances are likely that you
>will end up worse off. Is this what you want? Why
>bother having the surgery? Please think about this:
>I am 45 years old. I have one daughter and two
>beautiful granddaughters who I adore so much. My life
>could end any day and I will be unable to spend
>another day with my family. Do you want to have this
>happen to you? What about your family? How would
>they feel? If you won't think about yourself, think
>about them! Each additional surgery that you go
>through brings you that much closer to death. If you
>don't have a bowel obstruction or another life
>threatening condition you don't need the surgery! Ask
>your doctor....will I die tomorrow if I don't have
>this surgery? How about next week or next month? I
>wish that I had looked at each surgery this way. I
>wish that I could take it all back. But I can't. The
>only thing that I can do is try and prevent each of
>you from making the same mistake. I never thought
>that I could live with my pain. But I have done so
>for three years now. Yes, I am now on morphine, but I
>am for the most part pretty comfortable. I would
>rather take the narcotics then die because I had one
>too many surgeries. I have had 28 since 1991...over
>50 in my life...but that doesn't mean that you could
>have that many. It doesn't mean that you won't die on
>your fifth procedure. I have actually almost died
>three times...because of things like my heart stopping
>on the operating table. Not to mention the times when
>I became critically ill following some of the
>surgeries. The only thing I can say is that I don't
>want this to happen to even one of you. Please
>understand, it isn't about knowing it all...its about
>caring and loving.
>
>God Bless,
>
>Karla
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