Re: Ok, you can tell me if I'm paranoid or not...

From: Kimmi&Dave (kimmi3@mediaone.net)
Fri Nov 30 13:34:25 2001


Robin. I asked the question about addition and pain medication. They told me when the times comes if it ever comes that I need to come off pain medications. Most likely I will have to be put into a rehabilitation center to get off them. Before I never worried even though I was taking them daily the dose wasn't high, but over the last few years they have upped the dose high, and my body is addicted to them. Not addicted as in junkie like you were saying. Addicted for the need of pain medication to survive..There are other medications that I am on that they will either have to wean me off or do something because I am sure my body has been come addicted to those too. Like the muscle relaxes and sleeping pills.. But I really don't care too much about worry if I am addicted to the medication, all I want is relief. Glad you have a doctor that is understanding..Hugs Kimmi

>----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin" <rmasse2333@aol.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Ok, you can tell me if I'm paranoid or not...

> I have taken pain meds off & on for over 8 years. I have never had a
> problem getting off of them. My Dr of the last 4 years told me not to
> worry about getting off of them, that when the time came, she would help
> me. People who are addicted to pain meds (which ever kind they take)
> get a high from them. People who take pain meds for pain usually don't
> get that high. They get pain relief. I have had Drs tell me I was
> addicted. That adhesions don't hurt. It is all in my head. That is
> why I now have the wonderful, caring Dr that I now have.
> Robin
>
> At Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Karla wrote:
> >
> >Not that I think you are out of your mind, but where do you find a doctor
> >that tells you that?????????? I have never had a doctor tell me not to
> >worry about addiction. Quite the contrary. That's all they ever say.
No > >one ever told me I deserved relief....except on this list. Certainly not
a > >doctor. I would imagine that almost everyone on this list would love to
> >find the doctor that you have because we all have such a hard time
finding a > >doctor willing to prescribe adequate pain relief.
> >
> >As for not becoming addicted? I know from my own experience that if I
take > >a pain medication when I don't really need it I get headaches and feel
sick > >to my stomach. It doesn't matter what drug it is. But if I am having
lots > >of pain I don't get the headaches or nausea at all.
> >
> >Just my observations.
> >
> >--
> >Karla
> >

>> >>----- Original Message -----
> >From: "cathy:-" <anonymous@medispecialty.com>
> >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
> ><adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:53 PM
> >Subject: Ok, you can tell me if I'm paranoid or not...
> >
> >> I read through both of the recent links that Helen Dynda about
addiction > >> and chronic pain. (Yes, I read them all, Helen -- you are one of my
> >> personal heros for tracking down all of this fabulous info!) I must say
> >> that both of them raised the hair on the back of my neck.
> >>
> >> "Risk Of Addiction To Pain Relief Is Small, Expert Says" Then the
> >> article goes on to simply repeat this as a bald-faced assertion over
and > >> over. It gave NO explanations, NO reasons, simply stated that it is
> >> true. Well, you know, I'm not believing doctors simply because they
> >> ascend their thrones and proclaim things to be true! (ESPECIALLY things
> >> that they so sincerely WANT to be true!)
> >>
> >> I can think of several plausible scientific explanations for why it
> >> might be true that people who are in pain and take narcotics are
> >> unlikely to become addicted. For example we know that pain is a
> >> chemical reaction in the brain, and we know that drugs work by causing
> >> chemical reactions in the brain. It would be completely plausible if
> >> the brain scientists find out that pain chemicals interfere with the
> >> chemical process of addiction. Or maybe there is only a tiny fraction
> >> of the human population whose brains are wired up to become addicted
and > >> so among chronic pain sufferers there is only a tiny fraction who are
at > >> a risk for addiction. Or maybe it is some other reason. Or maybe in
> >> that study of pain patients and addiction they manipulated the data and
> >> said that anyone who needed the pain relief wasn't addicted when many
of > >> them actually were.
> >>
> >> But the point is that these Lords of Medicine do not deign to actually
> >> give us stupid little patients any information like that. Instead they
> >> pat us on the head and chuck us under the chin and tell us not to worry
> >> our pretty little heads about addiction and if we are in pain we
DESERVE > >> those narcotics. There are just so many things wrong with that
> >> attitude. First of all, I've heard enough "don't worry your little
> >> head" statements to know that I SHOULD worry. Don't worry nothing bad
> >> could happen from this c-section or tubal and that hysterectomy is a
> >> triviality and adhesions don't hurt. Secondly, I don't give a horse's
> >> patooie what anybody else thinks I DESERVE in the way of pain relief.
> >> It's not just that I have the right to pain relief, I have ALL the
> >> rights. I have the right to decide how much pain I can stand. I have
> >> the right to decide whether or not the benefits that any particular
drug > >> gives to me are worth the side effects that the particular drug has on
> >> me. Those are MY rights. MINE! MINE! MINE!
> >>
> >> Ok, I finished ranting, I'll stop now. If ya'all think I'm out of my
> >> mind, well, alright you wouldn't be the first ones!
> >>
> >> --
> >> cathy :-)
> >>
>


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