Re: suffering!

From: Todd Palmer (tpalmer266@jcn1.com)
Fri Dec 8 22:22:16 2000


Hi Trace, Glad we're still pain pals :-) !! I drink to the discovery of sticky gel anyday (except I can't mix alcohol with vicodin :-( . Glad you're doing okay! Lisa

>----- Original Message -----
From: niko (awesome) <nicko69@dingoblue.net.au> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 11:12 PM Subject: Re: suffering!

> Hey Lisa,
>
> I know the frustration felt with adhesions, and getting the doctors to
> listen to the thousands of us with this chronic condition. No offense was
> taken honestly, I just feel that sometimes the doctors should rule out IBS
> as adhesion surgery can cause it too. Even though the tests I could most
> certainly do without.
>
> I'm doing ok. My medications are all working for me now thanks, took two
> years, but I only have one life, and I'm trying my darndest to enjoy every
> minute possible ;-))
>
> I pray for a gel that they can smear all over us, so we can be stickless,
> every night ;-))
>
> Take care ....
>
> Trace x
>

>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Palmer" <tpalmer266@jcn1.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@forum.obgyn.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: suffering!
>
> > Hi Trace,
> > Gee, I'm sorry about your surgeries. I didn't mean to imply that IBS is
> not
> > a real problem at all. I just meant that it seems like adhesions get
> > confused with IBS more often than not. I know that that too can be
> > extremely painful. It's just that everyone I know that has adhesions
has > > had their doctor tell them that it's IBS without the slightest chance
or > > acceptance that adhesions can cause so much pain. Why would they think
> that
> > adhesions don't cause pain? Mine were so massive that they had
enveloped > > all of my organs. If that's not pain, I don't know what is. I hope you
> are
> > doing well now though! Please forgive my ignorant implications!
> > Lisa

>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: niko (awesome) <nicko69@dingoblue.net.au>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 5:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: suffering!
> >
> > > Hey Lisa ;-))
> > >
> > > I know that with two bowel operations under my belt, IBS is a reality
> for
> > me
> > > ;-)) It definitely gets irritated and took awhile to diagnose. Colofac
> > > relieves the symptoms straight away. So I think the problem should be
> made
> > > more aware as I wouldn't have had to deal with the unnecessary pain.
> > >
> > > Trace.
> > >

>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Todd Palmer" <tpalmer266@jcn1.com>
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
<adhesions@forum.obgyn.net> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 6:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: suffering!
> > >
> > > > Hello Pain Pals,
> > > > What is it with these doctors wanting to diagnose us all with IBS?
Do > > > they
> > > > reap some kind of royalties from the barium companies or what? I
> don't
> > > > doubt that IBS does exist but this is ridiculous. I guess in med
> school
> > > > they are taught "When all else fails, dx them with IBS" . I'm
sure > > that
> > > > what I did this a.m. was completely pain pill driven, but I e-mailed
> > > Oprah.
> > > > Wouldn't it be great if we actually got some publicity regarding our
> > > > adhesions? If anyone could get the message out, it would be her! I
> > > > seriously doubt my one little e-mail begging her for some help will
do > > us
> > > > any good, but if she started to receive more e-mails from us, we
might > > > stand
> > > > a snowball's chance. Like I said, it was my vicodin dulled brain
that > > > made
> > > > me do it. (hehe) What else is there to do with an icepack on my
> tummy
> > > > recouping from surgery # 7? I guess I'll just wait & see. I did get
a > > > > return e-mail from her folks thanking me for my letter. I know that
> it
> > > was
> > > > just a formality but keep your fingers crossed! Take care all!
> > > > Lisa

>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: jenny <sunnybrae@cwcom.net>
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> > > <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 1:46 PM
> > > > Subject: suffering!
> > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > I don't post often, but I've been following the fortunes of you
> all -
> > > > > particularly those who have been to Germany.
> > > > > A year ago tomorrow, I underwent surgery, to remove a remaining
> ovary
> > > > > and adhesions, following a TAH 15 years previously. I spent 10
> happy
> > > > > months pain free. In the last few months, pain has returned. I
saw > a
> > > > > general surgeon this week who has told me that he thinks that I
have > > > > > irritable bowel syndrome, despite the fact that I ahve few bowel
> > > > > symptoms. I have to have a barium enema, which he says that he
> > expects
> > > > > to be normal, following which he will 'label' (his words!) with
the > > > > > diagnosis of IBS. He says that if this is the case, then most
> people
> > > > > are reasuured by the fact that they can be told that they do not
> have
> > a
> > > > > cancer and that he expects that my symptoms will disappear. He
told > > me
> > > > > that adhesions do not cause pain!!!!! Until the results of the
> barium
> > he
> > > > > will do nothing. Why does he not realise that the pain is here
and > > now.
> > > > > Thank god for an understanding and endlessly sympathetic GP who
has > > > > > referred me to a pain clinic. I am at the end of my tether. So
few > > > > > seem to understand. I know that you all will.
> > > > > Thanks for listening to my ramblings.
> > > > > love,
> > > > > Jenny
> > > > >
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