Re: Aggravated

From: Susan (
Sat Mar 11 11:43:23 2000

At Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Kay Moran wrote: >
>Dear Susan - Your internist is full of it.
>The chances are the lumpiness under your right rib is from retractor (that
>holds the operating field open during surgery) damage done during
>appendectomy. I had pain etc.. for 13 years before I had laparascopic gall
>bladder removal in December 1998. 6 weeks later I had adhesions removed,
>laparascopicly. It took care of the pain, but the pain later returned. I'm
>going to try again.
> With the borderline functioning of your gall bladder ( whether from
>disease or damage) you can be sure it is INFLAMED. Which we all know leads
>to adhesions.
> I had a bad experience with my 2nd laparascopic procedure. Seriously
>under-medicated because surgeon was so sure this minimally invasive
>procedure wouldn't hurt so much. So I'm sure he didn't clean up after
>himself very well (which led to more adhestions). because according to him,
>laparascopic surgery leaves no adhestions!
> So, I guess my suggestion amounts to - make sure your surgeons don't
>share these opinions. Or do what I'm doing. Find a surgeon who is less
> Kay M.

>>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Susan" <>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <>
>Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 7:44 AM
>Subject: Aggravated
>> I had TAH,BSo,appendectomy 5/26/99.Since surgery I have had lumpy
>> feeling under right rib,real bloated,constipated and you know all the
>> feelings.According to Dr, who did surgery no Endo,just adhesions on
>> female parts and appendix from C-section,tubal ligation 22 years ago.I
>> am scheduled for a Lap on 4/7 with 2 Drs.who are in Atlanta.First I will
>> have an ENdoscope,possible gallbladder removal as the lst Dr.said my
>> gallbladder is borderline functioning(38 on scan)Then if lots of
>> adhesions 2nd Dr, will step in and do his parts.Both of these DRS, are
>> expert in their field and neither one does Laparatomies.THis is my
>> dilemma.My Internist told me I was crazy,that I would be worse after the
>> surgery.Both at having gallbladder out and adhesions removed.Now do I
>> want to sit here and wait for a gallbladder attack and have to have
>> surgery just anywhere or a bowel obstruction and have to be cut wide
>> open.Why would my Internist not know that this might happen?He said 38
>> on a Hiata scan was functioning.WHo out there has had trouble after
>> having gallbladder removed Lap?I don't think I have ever heard anybody
>> having that much trouble after having a gallbladder out.As for the
>> adhesions I know more will form but this Dr, is an Endo specialist and
>> an expert in his field.How does my Internist know I want be better?He
>> only offered me RX for acid refux which I think is the last thing I
>> could have.Some indigestion but not when I lay down and I hardly ever
>> burb.Please someone out there give me some suggestions.Thanks.Susan
>>Dear Kay,

Why didn't you have adhesions and gallbladder removed at the same time?That is what I intend to do.I was very upset after going to Internist and he was very abrasive.I asked him to order me a HITA scan since my last one was the end of 1998.My Dr, who is not in the same town as I am said any Dr. could order one but my Internist said,"Let him order one.I guess I could call my OBGYN and ask him to.All my gallbaldder sonograms(2) and HITA scan were before my hyst.(5/26).I started the patch after Hyst.and felt really bloated so stopped it.One place I read patch doesn't affect gallbladder disease and another place I read it did.So I don't know.Thanks for answering me.4/7/ is coming up fast.Of course I am having an Endoscope 1st and then the lap.I need support from now to then.Please help and THank you.Susan P.S.How did you find out about the retractor problem.It sometimes pulls around to the right side.And do you know I felt the feeling immediately following surgery.Did you have a HITA scan and what was your reading or did they find stones?THis area has hurt me for years,right before periods,and during my last pregnancy for the first four months I hurt so bad I thought I had some kind of tumor.I know hormones affect gallbladder.Why won't someone admit it.Susan

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